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Well there you go. Ford will not offer the manual transmission with the 2.7L for the 2021 model year.
That is really unfortunate.
That is really unfortunate.
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If the manual sells poorly in the 2021 MY there is a chance it could be completely removed for 2022. Other manufacturers have done it, so I wouldn’t rule it out.Unfortunate. Definitely will keep me out of 2021 to see what happens. Seems like Ford has plenty of reservations to keep them busy for the 2021 MY anyways.
Hard to give up the 2 extra cylinders and lack of port injection/cgi block with the 2.7L.
Maybe we’ll see a change in the manual pairings for 2022 but I doubt it.
Are you kidding me, I about want to have a heart attack over $30k 4 cylinder. At $45+ there has better be a V8 to make it worthwhile.That would be the worst case scenario. As an enthusiast the manual is a absolute must have. I just find it difficult to drop 45k plus on a 4 cylinder anything no matter what the vehicle type is.
i realize that the 2.3L is capable as it can tow 7k pounds in the ranger. It just seems ridiculous to spend that much money on a 4 cylinder “performance” vehicle.
however my Jeep drives on road as bad as my 79 F150 so it’s not long for my garage.
I don't disagree. That would be the perfect world. However, I'd be more than satisfied with the manual paired with the 2.7L. But like I said I can't pay 45k for badlands and be happy driving home with a 4 pot. As weird as that may seem to some people.Are you kidding me, I about want to have a heart attack over $30k 4 cylinder. At $45+ there has better be a V8 to make it worthwhile.
With much less than that 5K you can get an aftermarket intercooler, intake and tune on the 2.3L. Over 300Hp and 400lb-ft torque on the Ranger with just those mods. Part of the reason they didn’t go bigger I suspect is the amount of $$$ that would be required for all of the other parts that would start breaking with much more HP than they’re already providing. The V8’s back then stock had less HP than these turbo engines and you had to replace the driveshaft, axles, transfer cases etc. very soon after upgrading because they would break with the torque under pressure off-road. With all that said, yeah I’m pretty disappointed in not getting the 2.7L with a manual......I don't disagree. That would be the perfect world. However, I'd be more than satisfied with the manual paired with the 2.7L. But like I said I can't pay 45k for badlands and be happy driving home with a 4 pot. As weird as that may seem to some people.
I would pay an extra 5-10k for V8 and Manual. I'd keep that combo until I am physically unable to shift my own gears.
so what is your preference if you get a 2021? 2.3 manual or 2.7 autoWith all that said, yeah I’m pretty disappointed in not getting the 2.7L with a manual......
I’m going with the manual and getting the above mentioned upgrades on the 2.3.so what is your preference if you get a 2021? 2.3 manual or 2.7 auto
Yes but your still stuck with a 4 cylinder or a V6.With much less than that 5K you can get an aftermarket intercooler, intake and tune on the 2.3L. Over 300Hp and 400lb-ft torque on the Ranger with just those mods. Part of the reason they didn’t go bigger I suspect is the amount of $$$ that would be required for all of the other parts that would start breaking with much more HP than they’re already providing. The V8’s back then stock had less HP than these turbo engines and you had to replace the driveshaft, axles, transfer cases etc. very soon after upgrading because they would break with the torque under pressure off-road. With all that said, yeah I’m pretty disappointed in not getting the 2.7L with a manual......
Because nowadays a stock V8 is starting with much higher numbers and when you start modding you almost immediately get into the breaking zone. Also true with the twin-turbo V6 and if I was getting that I wouldn’t do much more than a tune on stock drivetrain.Yes but your still stuck with a V6.
How much sense does it make to compare a 2020 V6 to a 1990 V8?
And now is it that V8 torque can break components but a modded turbo V6 doesnt