Same here. Im guessing it’s more about sales quantity therefore makes more sense to buy cheaper transmission. For example, if manual transmission Bronco sales accounted For 70% of their sales....then im sure a USA or German made transmission would be choice. However, Ford probably did some “marketing research” and determined that since the manual Bronco will account for 20% of all Bronco sales through some formula, it makes no financial sense to spend money on a more expensive “quality” transmission. That’s just my guess.Im curious how much they are saving per unit with that decision.
I hope you're right about the odds favoring the new 7 speed being made in the UK.Ok. Did a little digging. MAGNA bought Getrag in 2018. Ford and Getrag have a previous joint venture with 4 production facilities.
The plant in China has a capacity of 150k units a year. It currently produces the 5/6MTT125/215.
The plant in England has a capacity of 481k units a year. It currently produces the 6MTI500 and the 6MTT331.
The Bronco transmission is called the 6MTI550. That leads me to believe that it would most likely be built in England as it’s the successor to the 6MTI500.
Let the comments on British quality commence.
Manual transmission "take" rate is about 5% of all sales nationwide, IIRC.Im guessing it’s more about sales quantity therefore makes more sense to buy cheaper transmission. For example, if manual transmission Bronco sales accounted For 70% of their sales....then im sure a USA or German made transmission would be choice. However, Ford probably did some “marketing research” and determined that since the manual Bronco will account for 20% of all Bronco sales through some formula, it makes no financial sense to spend money on a more expensive “quality” transmission. That’s just my guess.
TBH I think I would prefer china. UK just reminds me of the "midlands" transmission that sent all the minis to the crusher. Would be nice at this point to hear a leak that tremec is working on a trans as an alternative/upgrade should this project be a daunting failure. Maybe it will all be ok?I hope you're right about the odds favoring the new 7 speed being made in the UK.
It would convince me to get one over the A10 for the crawler gear.
I am well aware of all the old jokes about Lucas electrics, British made cars ‘character’ built in, and all the rest - I watched Top Gear religiously for a lot of years and they were merciless!I hope you're right about the odds favoring the new 7 speed being made in the UK.
It would convince me to get one over the A10 for the crawler gear.
The Midlands transmission was designed and made there.TBH I think I would prefer china. UK just reminds me of the "midlands" transmission that sent all the minis to the crusher. Would be nice at this point to hear a leak that tremec is working on a trans as an alternative/upgrade should this project be a daunting failure. Maybe it will all be ok?
I know...even more frightening! Wish they had gone w/tremec personally. It is what it is. Ax15 was getrag and that was a good trans...so maybe I am just too scared about nothing!The Midlands transmission was designed and made there.
The Getrag is a German company and design.
You are so incredibly wrong.I think Ford badly underestimated the popularity and desirability of the crawler gear in the Bronco.
I don't think it’s crazy to say if it were assembled in China we’ll be ok, too. Making assumptions and wild prognostications about how a product that no one has seen or driven is going to be made in the future is a fool’s errand.
I agree that configuration would be best for off-roading/rock-crawling. The 2.7 automatic might be better for desert running.Full disclosure: I will be ordering a 2.3/MT Bronco and am so friken excited that the 2.3 is being offered as an engine choice, and pairing it with a proper 3-pedal transmission is a dream come true after dealing with the numb, dull, confused automatic in the Ranger (which will be used, unchanged, in Bronco). Even if the MT was offered on the 2.7, i'd take the 2.3 and cost savings to put elsewhere in the build. Really don't think a stock Bronco "needs" the HP/TQ put out by the 2.7 considering the weight and packaging constraints.
Focus was and is a POS transmission,no where near the quality to compare of the new 10 speed AT.After owning an automatic 2012 Focus, I'm never buying an automatic from Ford again. My manual Fiesta ST has given me no issues. Sure there's a lot of awful manufacturing in China but they have high quality manufacturing too. I'll take my chances with the manual. I would feel really dumb if I got another faulty automatic from Ford. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...