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The Ford Performance Level 1 package includes:
- Off-Road leveling kit
- FOX “Tuned by Ford Performance" 2.0 Performance Series internal floating piston monotube front and rear shocks tuned by Ford Performance Engineers to optimize on and off-road performance
- Ford Performance 17-inch Dyno Gray wheels
- Ford Performance bedside graphics o Ford Performance windshield banner
- $2,495 MSRP before installation
The Ford Performance Level 2 package includes Level 1 content plus:
- Ford Performance engine calibration, which increases horsepower by 16 percent to 315 at 4,500 RPM and increases torque by nearly 20 percent to 370 lb.-ft. at 2,500 RPM
- BFGoodrich KO2 265/70-17 tires
- Rigid off-road fog light kit
- Ford Performance calibration
- Blue tow hooks
- Ford Performance stainless steel license plate frame
- $4,495 MSRP before installation
The Ford Performance Level 3 package includes Levels 1 and 2 content plus:
- Rigid 40-inch LED lightbar kit
- Red tow hooks
- Ford Performance by ARB winch-capable front bumper
- Ford Performance chase rack
- 2.3-liter Ford Performance sport exhaust
- $8,995 MSRP before installation
That’s how I feel. If I’m at 250k miles in 15 years and the 2.7 or 2.3 blows I’ll definitely be looking at whatever crazy V8 swaps we have at that point. I’ll worry about that in 2035 thoughI know I keep joking about 5.0 and 7.3s all the time. But it looks like I will be more than happy with the 2.7 for some time, at least so long as this remains under warranty and a daily driver. If it ever turns into full toy mode, then that might change. but as pointed out, the 2.7 puts out more power than any of the 8's that graced the Bronco stock in the past.
I looked at a 2016 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, $10,000 option for maybe $2,000's worth of rollbar, lightbar and decals, another suckers option package.It does remind me alot of the ZR2 packages, I looked those up yesterday due to that other thread on the GM contract.
Still the best deal going in that space. You can get in a diesel one under 40k from time to time here. TRD Pro Tacos don't go for a dime off MSRP, and are usually stickered at 50. Same with 4Runner Pros.I looked at a 2016 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, $10,000 option for maybe $2,000's worth of rollbar, lightbar and decals, another suckers option package.
I’m sorry but I don’t see what you are trying to say here? 270hp for a base engine is great. If you don’t like that no problem you can either pay more for a different engine or use the options ford performance will give you.Let's compare current to current then:
Either one of those options could sit in the "Beast" category. So once again, 270hp or 280hp whatever it is, doesn't do the new Bronco justice.
Idm a 4banger so long as it comes with stickI'm guessing based on the hp boost, that is for the 4 banger? Which makes it sound like if I don't get Package #2 then I get a little 4 banger with about 280hp?
Damn that sucks.... Wonder if they'll have crate motors available at launch...
280hp is what the wife's POS Jeep gets And if @Nickp is close with his numbers I'm looking at $40k for a crappy 316hp 4 cyl.... that doesn't make me happy!
You're killing me @Administrator
yes, but we still like horsepower. why not both?
I know. I'm fine with the 2.7. The 2.3 is more than adequate, but im an HP junky. I'll the the 2.7 for now, and in 10 years or 20 years Illl drop in something else...5.0, 7.3, etc.You'll get both, don't worry. Ecoboost engines are torque monsters, but they don't skimp on the power either.
To be fair, the early Bronco had a "little bitch" 170 cu in 105hp engine. It did a nice job. Torquey and fine on the highway up to around 65. The next step up was a 302 at around 150hp. Our Bronco II was 140 hp. It did fine with four people towing a boat. Heck my '92 lightning 351W was only 250hp.What I'm saying is, if you want to talk about heritage and everything the Bronco has done from the beginning, then they better not put a little bitch engine in it. Otherwise just call it a Bronco II and say "Yeah sorry, we couldn't come up with any better"
Well crap, most engines back in the 70's were low on specs, 80's got a little better, 90's even better. So really to compare a 70's engine to a 90's engine isn't a fair comparison. Hell look at my 2012 Mustang V6.... what's it get like 305hp? When a Mustang GT from 2008 only had 320hp? (obvious torque differences though). And that's only a few years apart.To be fair, the early Bronco had a "little bitch" 170 cu in 105hp engine. It did a nice job. Torquey and fine on the highway up to around 65. The next step up was a 302 at around 150hp. Our Bronco II was 140 hp. It did fine with four people towing a boat. Heck my '92 lightning 351W was only 250hp.
The new four is gonna be very capable, I reckon.
That leaves us with the age old question... Will it be able to get out of it's own way?
But yeah the Bronco will be way more powerful than anything else in the class. I'll just leave it at that.
4Runner has less hp/tq, a 5 speed transmission, and weighs quite a bit more than the Bronco should. It's...Fine. Not fast, but I've driven quite a few and didn't really think much about it at all.That leaves us with the age old question... Will it be able to get out of it's own way?