Sponsored

2022 Order Bank Date?

ChompSticks

Black Diamond
Well-Known Member
First Name
ChompSticks
Joined
Feb 23, 2021
Threads
38
Messages
1,417
Reaction score
2,475
Location
Cumming, GA
Vehicle(s)
'02 E55 wagon, '98 Suzuki X-90, '96 Town Car
Your Bronco Model
Black Diamond
Clubs
 
Interesting - and encouraging re capacity -

Being a Ford Engineer, what do you think of the constraints ?

To me the most surprising one is 2.7L - Isn't this one of Ford's standard engines they use in a lot of models ? They should have plenty ?
Why would there be a constraint on the 2.7L ?
The 2.7L is probably prioritized to F-150s first.
Sponsored

 

ChompSticks

Black Diamond
Well-Known Member
First Name
ChompSticks
Joined
Feb 23, 2021
Threads
38
Messages
1,417
Reaction score
2,475
Location
Cumming, GA
Vehicle(s)
'02 E55 wagon, '98 Suzuki X-90, '96 Town Car
Your Bronco Model
Black Diamond
Clubs
 
Don't they have trucks parked waiting for a motor? I think the shortage is THAT bad.
No, they are waiting on semiconductors I believe. Also the 2.7L isn't on the commodity list anymore as of right now. I think it is just the hardtop and tow hitch
 

JaxGtc

Outer Banks
Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2020
Threads
26
Messages
2,198
Reaction score
4,649
Location
Florida
Vehicle(s)
1975 EB Sport; 2021 Outer Banks
Your Bronco Model
Outer Banks
No, they are waiting on semiconductors I believe. Also the 2.7L isn't on the commodity list anymore as of right now. I think it is just the hardtop and tow hitch
I think it is like Dogula eluded to, once tops and tow straighten out in a couple months things will be humming. Constraints at that point should be momentary and not such a calamity.
 

Bituman

Wildtrak
Well-Known Member
First Name
Bob
Joined
Mar 21, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
374
Reaction score
681
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Vehicle(s)
S-Works Roubaix, Vassago Mooseknuckle, Turner Czar
Your Bronco Model
Wildtrak
Here is a quote from a May 8, 2021 e-mail that my dealer sent to me.

”Your reservation will be moved to an order bank this fall for a 2022 Bronco that will arrive after the first of the year. Sometime in the fall I will reach out to you to confirm your build.”

Not real specific but the general process makes sense. My dealer contact is the General Manager of the dealer and a part owner. He has been very patient and straight with me the whole time, so I’m guessing this quote is how it will play out.
 

Dogula

Heritage
Well-Known Member
First Name
Terry
Joined
Jan 25, 2018
Threads
5
Messages
219
Reaction score
425
Location
Clarkston, MI, Rio Verde, AZ
Vehicle(s)
2022 BS Badlands, 2023 CHALLENGER Shaker Widebody
Your Bronco Model
Heritage
Interesting - and encouraging re capacity -

Being a Ford Engineer, what do you think of the constraints ?
I'm very surprised by the constraints caused by Ford's suppliers. When I worked there, Ford had these expectations from their suppliers: Quality parts delivered on time. No exceptions. If they couldn't deliver that, then they were in jeopardy of losing Ford's business.

I retired in 2007, so I know a lot has changed since then. The biggest change is Ford has a lot less suppliers now then they used too. This was by design, because they were following Toyota's supply chain model. In theory it sounds good, less suppliers translating to a leaner supply chain. But when you put all you eggs in one basket, and there is a disruption at the suppliers plants, you just can't go somewhere else to buy the parts. Changing suppliers for any automaker is not an quick process.

Even Toyota went against there own JIT philosophy by stocking up on semiconductors. They have been the least affected by the shortage. If anything good has come from all of this, is some good lessons learned.
 

Sponsored

HoosierDaddy

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
Eric
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Threads
37
Messages
5,364
Reaction score
13,670
Location
Indiana
Vehicle(s)
68&69 Broncos, 21 AMB Base 2dr, 23 VB BL 4dr
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
This is not likely (I won’t say impossible because . . . Ford).

I’m a mid/late February reservation and not planning to see my build until Jul/Aug 2022. There would have to be a lot of cancellations to move up. Or more constraints.
Oh Yeah?
His soft top Big Bend will probably preview next Tuesday.
LMAO!!!!
 

irishdore

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
David
Joined
Apr 21, 2021
Threads
3
Messages
159
Reaction score
281
Location
Tennessee
Vehicle(s)
'23 Ford Bronco Badlands, '20 Ford Expedition
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
I'm very surprised by the constraints caused by Ford's suppliers. When I worked there, Ford had these expectations from their suppliers: Quality parts delivered on time. No exceptions. If they couldn't deliver that, then they were in jeopardy of losing Ford's business.

I retired in 2007, so I know a lot has changed since then. The biggest change is Ford has a lot less suppliers now then they used too. This was by design, because they were following Toyota's supply chain model. In theory it sounds good, less suppliers translating to a leaner supply chain. But when you put all you eggs in one basket, and there is a disruption at the suppliers plants, you just can't go somewhere else to buy the parts. Changing suppliers for any automaker is not an quick process.

Even Toyota went against there own JIT philosophy by stocking up on semiconductors. They have been the least affected by the shortage. If anything good has come from all of this, is some good lessons learned.

I cannot speak for Ford, but in the industry that I am in we also have similar expectations of our suppliers as you describe and we have both preferred and sole providers of some commodities. The business for whom I work is roughly the same global size as Ford. The commodities crush is so bad that we have had to search elsewhere (mostly unsuccessfully because everyone is doing so).

There are also additional issues beyond commodities and a main one is logistics. Many folks are probably aware of the trucking issues for fuel (from the news when that pipeline was hacked), but there are actually trucking shortages independent of industry. It is very difficult to get trucks and get product places. Shipping (via ships) is even more difficult and that stoppage in the Suez Canal didn't help matters.

Our customers (major retailers) would normally punish us with fines if we had the service levels that we currently have today. But, they are currently waiving fees on manufacturers because all manufacturers have the same issues. Instead, the retailers (like Walmart) are just replacing products with different products from another manufacturer and moving on. Everything is in flux.

Unfortunately, sounds like auto manufacturers don't have the same luxury as Walmart might. They cannot just switch to someone else overnight.

Net, net... just reinforcing what is being said by Dogula.
Sponsored

 
 


Top