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The Ranger forums have a thread about fuel in the oil, some with very few miles. Any inputs?
 

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As someone coming from an 08 4runner I have done nothing but regular maintenance on it since it was new I think you need to table Toyota like reliability / depreciation expectations. It was hard for me to come to terms with this as well.

But in the end it is a Ford....
That toyota reliability argument is annoying Ford has always made motors that last 300,000 before needing a head gasket and a re ring, the thing is that its largely the owners and their lack of regular maintenance and or abusive driving that causes premature failure. The only ford that I ever had internal damage on under 300,000 miles was when I tried to race a 3000gt on the highway in a 78 econoline with a carb, intake and headers. I was going 70+ saw him coming up fast so I stomped it. Never thought it would downshift to second, but it did. Probably jumped to over 6000 rpm instantly and snapped the crank at the dampner. At the same time i had a buddy with a toyota pickup and a 22re. Had a cracked head and only fired on 3 cylinders. They tried welding the head and it lasted another month before it was a pile of smoke, dead under 200,000.

The fact that there are still a few Yugos in the world that are running is testament that maintenance is what keeps em alive.
 

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Pound for pound the 4door Bronco looks like the same size as a F150, if not a little heavier, but Ford doesn't offer the 2.3L turbo in the F150....
Ranger would be closer I bet
 

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No but ford has the 3.3 n/a in the f150 that’s a lot weaker than the 2.3
Which I would prefer. "Weakness" isn't my concern.
I know this is just going to end up with me living out the Einstein insanity quote, but I have to try just one more time.

I know you would love to have a good size N/A aspirated engine that only puts out 150HP cause you’re not worried about weakness. Because why not right! They’re only down on power, efficiency and we all know they turn over every single time with no issue! (This is what I was referring to in my earlier post about being stuck on decades old engine tech)

It’s not like Ford found a 2.3 or 2.7 N/A engine in the warehouse and decided to slap a turbo on it like some ricer. These engines were designed and engineered to work with these turbos and withstand whatever can be thrown at it.
 
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That toyota reliability argument is annoying Ford has always made motors that last 300,000 before needing a head gasket and a re ring, the thing is that its largely the owners and their lack of regular maintenance and or abusive driving that causes premature failure. The only ford that I ever had internal damage on under 300,000 miles was when I tried to race a 3000gt on the highway in a 78 econoline with a carb, intake and headers. I was going 70+ saw him coming up fast so I stomped it. Never thought it would downshift to second, but it did. Probably jumped to over 6000 rpm instantly and snapped the crank at the dampner. At the same time i had a buddy with a toyota pickup and a 22re. Had a cracked head and only fired on 3 cylinders. They tried welding the head and it lasted another month before it was a pile of smoke, dead under 200,000.

The fact that there are still a few Yugos in the world that are running is testament that maintenance is what keeps em alive.
I wasn't making a Toyota reliability argument. I was just saying I'd like a 180hp NA V6, and referenced a Toyota I used to own.
 
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I know this is just going to end up with me living out the Einstein insanity quote, but I have to try just one more time.

I know you would love to have a good size N/A aspirated engine that only puts out 150HP cause you’re not worried about weakness. Because why not right! They’re only down on power, efficiency and we all know they turn over every single time with no issue! (This is what I was referring to in my earlier post about being stuck on decades old engine tech)

It’s not like Ford found a 2.3 or 2.7 N/A engine in the warehouse and decided to slap a turbo on it like some ricer. These engines were designed and engineered to work with these turbos and withstand whatever can be thrown at it.
They stopped making NA engines decades ago? I can't believe I missed that.

Why don't they put the 2.3L in the F150? They are the same weight, or even a little less than the 4door bronco. Why are they putting a (20 year old?) 3.3L NA V6 in them?
 

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They stopped making NA engines decades ago? I can't believe I missed that.

Why don't they put the 2.3L in the F150? They are the same weight, or even a little less than the 4door bronco. Why are they putting a (20 year old?) 3.3L NA V6 in them?
Ford Bronco 4 cylinder 4 door? Really? 1595199766620

Yup I’m living the Einstein quote. If you end up with a Bronco awesome, I hope it serves you well and you have good times in it. If you don’t get a Bronco then oh well I hope you find something that will meet your wants/needs. Good luck
 

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They stopped making NA engines decades ago? I can't believe I missed that.

Why don't they put the 2.3L in the F150? They are the same weight, or even a little less than the 4door bronco. Why are they putting a (20 year old?) 3.3L NA V6 in them?
I am going to assume you are an older person. Most older people don't like the idea of turbo's because when they first became mainstream they weren't the greatest. That was also 30 years ago? A lot has changed since then. Better technology and tons more R&D. The US has also largely used superchargers over turbo's for years. Turbo's are the way the engine market is going to get the power and fuel efficiency. Not sure why you would want older technology that is less efficient, slower and heavier.

Cody never said they stopped making NA engines decades ago. Pretty sure he said exactly as I just did that you are to stubborn to try something new and want to complain about Ford not putting an out of date motor in the bronco.
 
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Ford Bronco 4 cylinder 4 door? Really? 1595199766620

Yup I’m living the Einstein quote. If you end up with a Bronco awesome, I hope it serves you well and you have good times in it. If you don’t get a Bronco then oh well I hope you find something that will meet your wants/needs. Good luck
Bummer. I thought you might explain why the ecoboost V6 isn't offered on the F250s either. It's almost as if they might have limits after all.
 

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I am going to assume you are an older person. Most older people don't like the idea of turbo's because when they first became mainstream they weren't the greatest. That was also 30 years ago? A lot has changed since then. Better technology and tons more R&D. The US has also largely used superchargers over turbo's for years. Turbo's are the way the engine market is going to get the power and fuel efficiency. Not sure why you would want older technology that is less efficient, slower and heavier.

Cody never said they stopped making NA engines decades ago. Pretty sure he said exactly as I just did that you are to stubborn to try something new and want to complain about Ford not putting an out of date motor in the bronco.
Don’t bother engaging man. It’s just gonna be a waste of your time. Several of us have tried and then the goalpost get moved.

It’s time for everyone to just let this thread die off.
 
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I am going to assume you are an older person. Most older people don't like the idea of turbo's because when they first became mainstream they weren't the greatest. That was also 30 years ago? A lot has changed since then. Better technology and tons more R&D. The US has also largely used superchargers over turbo's for years. Turbo's are the way the engine market is going to get the power and fuel efficiency. Not sure why you would want older technology that is less efficient, slower and heavier.

Cody never said they stopped making NA engines decades ago. Pretty sure he said exactly as I just did that you are to stubborn to try something new and want to complain about Ford not putting an out of date motor in the bronco.
I specifically questioned the 2.3 in the 4door Bronco. Nothing more nothing less. The assumptions made from there have been impressive.

Believe it or not I'm still leaning toward buying a Bronco (2door) with the 2.3. Just because I've had some discussions about possible other engines I'd like more doesn't mean I'm a hater. The amount of gatekeeping around the vehicle that no one has driven yet is impressive.
 

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Rich Catholic school teens and sorority girls will be fine with the 4-cyl
hey some of us former Catholic school/sorority girls know our way around trucks, or at least I do. And while I’m not thrilled about the 4-blow, I’m seriously considering it because I loathe driving automatics.
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