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That's crazy if that's the actual specification. The non-plus Torx security bit (in the same picture) has the same six lobes as a regular Torx bit. I've got a new set of non-security Torx plus (confirmed 6 lobes in the product picture) on the way from Amazon. Will report back.
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Panel one: There are 17 competing standards
Panel two: "That's stupid, why doesn't someone unify everything?"
Panel three: There are now 18 competing standards

Only with fasteners it's exacerbated by the idea of "security" and the fact that no one can agree on naming conventions. Typically a 5 lobe drive is referred to as pentalobe, or in your case pentalobe security. Why people starting calling it TPsecurity is beyond me, and frankly incorrect as far as I'm concerned, but no one asks my opinion on these things.

The idea behind using oddball fasteners like "security" versions is either to make customer self service more difficult, thus channeling business towards "authorized repair shops", or keep novices away from electrical parts. For example Nintendo uses tri-wing screws on their stuff for both reasons.

For the record, Torx Plus is not one of those use cases. TP is actually designed as an addition to the Torx family, and the heads of the bolts are meant to accept regular torx drivers, which is why a T40 driver can turn a TP40 head, though as it's not perfect there is a little looseness. TP is superior to T is pretty much every way, as when applying the proper TP driver it reduces cam-out, and allows more torque to be applied. The downside is TP drivers do not fit in T heads. If T had been skipped completely and only TP been used, the world would have been a better place.

As a side note, buying the "security" versions of all torx bits is not a short cut to having to buy the non-security versions. Security bits are weaker by nature of lack of material, and if you ever get a stuck non-security bolt, you could easily break a security head trying to get it free.
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hi
i have same problem with a transmission bolt on BRP unit. i go on BRP dealer and i buy one bolt, after i go on a specialized tools shop with this brand new bolt to try different torx brand name compagny like JET, SNAP ON, HUSKY, SK, and i have found the perfect fit tool torx size with JET. the other brand not fit the bolt perfectly and cost more $$$ they call them tolerance in built tool.
i hope you understand,, my language is french i just try to help you
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It's like a cartoon I saw one time

Panel one: There are 17 competing standards
Panel two: "That's stupid, why doesn't someone unify everything?"
Panel three: There are now 18 competing standards

Only with fasteners it's exacerbated by the idea of "security" and the fact that no one can agree on naming conventions. Typically a 5 lobe drive is referred to as pentalobe, or in your case pentalobe security. Why people starting calling it TPsecurity is beyond me, and frankly incorrect as far as I'm concerned, but no one asks my opinion on these things.

The idea behind using oddball fasteners like "security" versions is either to make customer self service more difficult, thus channeling business towards "authorized repair shops", or keep novices away from electrical parts. For example Nintendo uses tri-wing screws on their stuff for both reasons.

For the record, Torx Plus is not one of those use cases. TP is actually designed as an addition to the Torx family, and the heads of the bolts are meant to accept regular torx drivers, which is why a T40 driver can turn a TP40 head, though as it's not perfect there is a little looseness. TP is superior to T is pretty much every way, as when applying the proper TP driver it reduces cam-out, and allows more torque to be applied. The downside is TP drivers do not fit in T heads. If T had been skipped completely and only TP been used, the world would have been a better place.

As a side note, buying the "security" versions of all torx bits is not a short cut to having to buy the non-security versions. Security bits are weaker by nature of lack of material, and if you ever get a stuck non-security bolt, you could easily break a security head trying to get it free.
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OK the bolts are 100% Torx Plus TP-40. Just make sure not to get Torx Plus Security/Tamper Resistant which has the wrong number of sides (5 vs 6). Regular Torx Security bits are the same in every way except adding a hole, but TP Security has a hole and 5 sides.

Torx Plus 40 on the left, regular Torx 40 Security on the right. Regular T40 bit will work in a pinch, that's what I've been using before getting the plus bits.
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I know the bit says "T-40" but I promise it's Torx Plus. Here's the set I got from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082QTHTRD/

The set is very small and I just put it in my Bronco tool bag. The bit fits in the back side of the Bronco socket wrench, also comes with an adapter to fit on a regular socket wrench.
 
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OK the bolts are 100% Torx Plus TP-40. Just make sure not to get Torx Plus Security/Tamper Resistant which has the wrong number of sides (5 vs 6). Regular Torx Security bits are the same in every way except adding a hole, but TP Security has a hole and 5 sides.

Torx Plus 40 on the left, regular Torx 40 Security on the right. Regular T40 bit will work in a pinch, that's what I've been using before getting the plus bits.
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I know the bit says "T-40" but I promise it's Torx Plus. Here's the set I got from Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082QTHTRD/

The set is very small and I just put it in my Bronco tool bag. The bit fits in the back side of the Bronco socket wrench, also comes with an adapter to fit on a regular socket wrench.
I bought this last night after a frustrating drive to every hardware store in town. The Amazon kit was perfect! Thanks for posting it. Bonus is there’s a flag mounting hole under there!
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I just used a flat head screwdriver
 

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I bought this last night after a frustrating drive to every hardware store in town. The Amazon kit was perfect! Thanks for posting it. Bonus is there’s a flag mounting hole under there!
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Where is the flag mounting hole?
 

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There is an unused hole under the bumper cap, between the two visible bolts.

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That's awesome! I made a bracket and checked it in the driver's side, which does not have this hole, so that's why I ask. Great find! Thank you!
 

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That's awesome! I made a bracket and checked it in the driver's side, which does not have this hole, so that's why I ask. Great find! Thank you!
Really? Body modification guide suggests they should be on both sides once you pull the end caps off.

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Really? Body modification guide suggests they should be on both sides once you pull the end caps off.

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Huh, I will have to look again, I might have just overlooked it. Thanks.
 

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So what happens if I strip this dumb bolt because it's too tight? How do I get it out (still too tight). (n)😒
 

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If it's not stripped out too badly, I'd try getting a small tube of valve grind compound, putting a bunch in the bolt socket and trying. If that doesn't work, put a ton of masking tape around the bolt so you don't scratch the paint and find a big azz vice-grip, lock it on tight. After it breaks loose it should come out easily.
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Thank you, I will stop at the store on the way home and pick some of this up....and try again tonight. 🤞
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