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This, at $50k+ I expect/require a V8, at $38k my expectations aren’t as high.

Wouldn’t be caught dead in a crossover type vehicle so hell no. I would drive a minivan(similar vehicle) but never will I get caught driving a crossover.

I have seen videos of it, I’ve sat in one, rode in one, I’ve looked under it and looked at options and builds. I’ve tried my damndest to figure out what the hell the few people on this forum like about it and I have nothing. It awful as an off-roader unless you’ve scouted the perfect trail. I’m...

I would think they meant actual competition for the Bronco, not an X5 competitor.

Can afford defender and not loyal Ford customer, or Jeep fwiw. The defender is a horrid abomination, unibody construction is NOT meant for off-road. Land Rover cheaped out because it knew its customer base was more likely to visit Starbucks than ever see a gravel road.

This does not surprise me in the least, virtue signaling at its finest.

I’ve never seen a train have trouble delivering coal in -15F weather. Just saying.

So your an OG environmentalist? Your giving virtue signalers all over this country a bad name! Next they’re going to have to actually do something physical to help the environment instead of just posting a Beijing Times article on Facebook on the dangers of climate change.

JLR will be lucky to even exist still in 2025, this is just their PSA they will be shutting their doors in 4 years.

I repeat my previous statement, messing with the Wrangler is stupid. Jeep is a brand, they sell multiple vehicles. There’s no reason they should only sell one single off-road vehicle.

Scout, Bronco, K5, original 4Runner, there’s been competition but no one can beat it.

Furthermore, the fact an off-road brand, Jeep, has only one real off-road vehicle is mind boggling. They need more options to those that want a good basic off-roader, not fill the lot with soft roaders for Abigail, Brittany, Emma and the rest of the Sorority. We should want Jeep to finally...

Which is exactly where Land Rover finds themself this very day, not a single tough off-road vehicle in their stable, not even the image. They took their halo vehicle, the Defender, which is recognizable world wide and turned it into a minivan with crossover proportions. Tata literally took a...

Negative, left hand drive SS I’ve met someone that had one right hand drive but that’s taking it too far for me.

Sedan segment is dead outside of the Charger and very high end cars, it’s absolutely dreary. SUV segment is just as bad, GM neutered the Suburban and Tahoe, leaving you with the Wrangler and the 4Runner(&GX), otherwise we have essentially no SUVs on the market until the Bronco comes. Unless...

I guess that depends on if your segment is supported. I have a full-size V8 AWD off-road SUV and a 4 door manual trans V8 sedan. I can’t replace either with a newer modern vehicle. I think our current offerings available are less than ‘slim’.

You’ll notice, even if Jeep ends up killing every parent company it hitches up to, it’s still the last man standing no matter what. You don’t see many Plymouth’s anymore do you?

I have done my due diligence to give the new Defender every opportunity to prove me wrong, I’ve sat in them and gotten under them and studied them - it’s a damn crossover by any definition. People want to use the GC with solid axles to say that unibody is capable off-road while ignoring the...

I’m using the points you are making, it’s clear Jeep with its solid front axle has outlived every single competitor to date, most of them with independent from suspension. I’m simply looking at the history and drawing conclusions. And the history says to not bet against the solid axle Jeep.

T The 250s have the steering input in the steering wheel, if you start looking at steering wheel swaps for those trucks you’ll see what I mean. There is a motor with a physical gear turning the steering shaft.