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  1. A Wrangler Owner/Enthusiast/Builder honest review of the 2021 Bronco -- long...

    A lot of cope here for someone that was wrong in so many ways. You might want to re-read the document you linked to earlier. You’re judging engine weight by entire vehicle weight when you can full well see the larger engine options use beefier components which account for that added weight.
  2. A Wrangler Owner/Enthusiast/Builder honest review of the 2021 Bronco -- long...

    Except you are incorrect, the 5.0 weighs 430lbs with accessories while the 2.7 weighs 440lbs. This is easily verifiable if you took a couple minutes to look it up. https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1907731/ford-27-liter-ecoboost-v6-deep-dive/...
  3. A Wrangler Owner/Enthusiast/Builder honest review of the 2021 Bronco -- long...

    It’s not really just this thread, it’s really any enthusiast forum. People get blindsided by a product that they really love and cannot look at it objectively. I get it, the options on the market for real SUVs is extremely limited, you have the Bronco, Wrangler, 4Runner and GX, and when the...
  4. A Wrangler Owner/Enthusiast/Builder honest review of the 2021 Bronco -- long...

    Except, at least in Fords case, the 5.0L weighs less than the 2.7L. There’s a lot of V6 cope on these forums for what is really a less than stellar engine, and I have quite a lot of seat time behind it.
  5. Would you want a V8 Bronco?

    Yes, absolutely the 2.7L is a dog and unfitting for a $50k vehicle. An off-road open top and a V8 is a match made in heaven.
  6. Is anyone else cancelling and getting the F150 Lightning?

    I suppose if you don’t ever go places and do things with your life, but for the majority of Americans that just can’t cut it. I don’t know what I’ll do tomorrow, I could end up two states away if that’s what the day brings. I think I took 12 vacations last year alone, and that does not scratch...
  7. Is anyone else cancelling and getting the F150 Lightning?

    But an ICE vehicle does 100% of an ICE vehicle and can function as an only car - something an EV, at this time, cannot dream of doing. Especially not with 300 miles of range. I’d have bigger things in life to worry about if I couldn’t afford the cost of gas, and buying an EV would be at the...
  8. Ford should of not made so many bronco models

    Honestly I feel the exact opposite, I thought the Bronco would have had more options and availabilities than they did.
  9. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    I filled up a 32 gallon H2 that at the time only achieved 10.5MPG (pre regear) the whole way through that $3.50/gal phase. Getting 17MPG is a humongous increase, should feel like a Prius. My only two complaints with the MPG are the lack of a V8 that would likely do just as good on fuel...
  10. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    F150 weighs between 4-5,000 lbs, the Bronco is between 4-4,500lbs. Base Bronco and what they put on most F150s have about the same tire size. So yes probably 1,000lbs from each extreme. I don’t disagree with what your hitting at. Maybe Ford is being conservative with their ratings. It’s quite a...
  11. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    F150 has tiny 255 tires, 3.15 gearing, active aero shudders, air dams out the arse, plastic cladding under the truck directing air flow, the tires are tucked into the body and air is directed away from them, the truck has tons of little things that add up. The Bronco doesn’t have those things...
  12. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    How are they impossible? They seem quite reasonable if it were a V8, and being that the smaller engines will likely spend their lives in boost it makes sense to a degree that MPG would be in the high teens.
  13. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    I agree they’re lower than one should expect out of such tiny engines but I think you’re going to be disappointed if you expect those figures you posted. These are real true SUVs not the mommy minivan crap you see rolling around with front wheel drive and and plastic panels adorning the...
  14. Sasquatch in the snow

    Idk about the Goodyear’s but I’ve driven 37” KO2s in the snow since the year they were introduced and I can hardly even make them spin from a stop in snow.
  15. Base Model Bronco Thread

    May be an export, many countries abroad do not allow for window tint, definitely wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen that.
  16. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    60HP in 500 RPM is hardly a spike A dressed 5.0L weighs less than a dressed 2.7L The 5.0l by nature of being lighter will be more responsive. Fuel economy should be equal if not better since it wouldn’t need constant boost roaming around the upper/mid end of the RPM range where these trucks...
  17. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    Hardly unrelated when the V8 is more and more looking like the better choice. I realize your not much of an enthusiast but the numbers don’t lie.
  18. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    Who praise did you mean to reply to, I for one understand what’s happening. The torque/power curve on the 5.0L is not showing any huge increase half way through the range as you claim - it’s quite linear as I explained.
  19. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    Over 250ftlbs from the 5.0L before 2,000RPM isn’t enough to move the Bronco? I mean that’s referencing the outgoing 5.0L at that, so it should be slightly higher now. You can’t simultaneously want amazing fuel economy and the boosted engine, your better off with the natural aspirated option.
  20. Official MPG figures: 2021 Bronco 2.3L and 2.7L fuel economy

    Thank you for making my point. 2018 so not the newest.
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