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  1. goatman

    SoCal Broncos

    Bakersfield
  2. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    So, you clearly pick out only the info you want, and ignore the rest. It has been said over and over and over again that Ford clarified the statement you quoted BERFORE any orders were placed. YOU, not me, are ignoring what is clearly out there.
  3. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    Sorry, this is not logical at all. Everyone has been on some allocation from the beginning. My dealer is on the top 150 list. They got 60 2021 Broncos allocated and had over 100 orders, at MSRP. My order is going to be 2022. My order will be included in their 2022 allocation. So, how does your...
  4. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    Yes, well before any orders were taken. Do all of you who are bitching so loudly and irrationally realize that for all of us Bronco order holders that did not order from Granger that we are better off? No one is getting screwed here, if you didn't buy from Granger at way back of invoice. The...
  5. Day 6: MY22 Allocation Formula – What action can we take?

    Or the dealership could have told you this. Hey, go for it. I'm all for getting my Bronco sooner rather then later.
  6. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    BTW, is everyone who is so adamant that they are getting screwed by Ford getting their Bronco from this dealer? Who else is getting screwed so badly?
  7. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    No, I won't admit it at all, because it wasn't. You are ignoring the time line, to justify your self serving conclusions. Sure, focus on reservations. But, the real deal is orders. A dealership was chosen when it was time to convert the reservation to an order. And the revised (yes, revised for...
  8. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    And your info is based on what? The poster said only dealers who sold below invoice were fair and honest. I challenged that statement. There was no argument. Many people here have said they paid MSRP. Only a few have said they paid ADM. Regarding what this thread is about, a few of us are...
  9. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    In another thread it was quoted that the comment came in Sept 2020. That was before ordering was opened. So, any dealership knew that there was going to be an allocation formula that partly took into account previous sales history. You should be able to see the significance of that. The...
  10. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    So, any business that sells their product at a fair price is greedy? Seriously? I think we can easily make a point that the dealership who chose a marketing strategy to sell over 1000 Broncos when other dealerships were going to sell 100's is the one who is greedy. You're saying that selling at...
  11. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    So, a dealership has allocation for 203 Broncos at 1000 below invoice or greater. Since I understand initial orders were at 2000 below, let's say 1250 below invoice average and use that number. As an example, my dealership, which is on that 150 top dealers list that someone posted, got about 60...
  12. Article: Bronco reservations could be delayed for years.

    Yeah, maybe we'll get a story that presents both sides of an issue, rather than gloating over a one sided article. Wait, I thought gloating was against the rules on Bronco6g forum, since that was the reason given to me for getting banned from two threads. :ROFLMAO: Hey, I hope Ford does...
  13. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    This thread is about dealers having some responsibility, and it isn't all Ford's fault. So, are you saying that a dealer who chose to dramatically oversell their projected allocation by dramatically undercutting pricing, has no fault at all in this....it's all Ford's fault? What are you saying...
  14. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    Again, you are making my point. While reservations were already open, orders were not open. So, when the dealers that chose to market at below invoice made their decisions, and started to take orders, the allocation information was out there. And, yes, it was said from the beginning that all...
  15. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    Sorry, it blows my mind that folks are ignoring what is right there in front of you. The post you're quoting from was from 2020, right from the beginning. So, this quote is from the beginning. "Dealer allocation will depend on a retailer's market size, previous SUV sales performance, the number...
  16. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    Your comment is speculation. Which is exactly what I said. So, your comment supports my comment. Ford said that reservation dates would influence production dates. Ford never said that reservation dates would be the ONLY factor controlling production dates, which seems to be the interpretation...
  17. why are we blaming Ford and not the dealers?

    EXACTLY! And I got banned from two threads for saying this. Anyone who thinks differently is in La La Land and is basing their views on their own self serving opinion. I keep reading "Ford is catering to the big dealerships", and what is this view based on? What evidence is there? Seems pure...
  18. Non-sas Suspension quality [question]

    Not real sure what you're question is. The Bronco has coil over shocks on all four corners, meaning the coil spring is not mounted to the frame or axle or A arms anywhere, the coil is mounted directly to the shock. The springs are coils, with various slight differences in spring rate and length...
  19. Getting back at Fomoco: Boycott Off-Roadeo

    Seriously? Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water. What a bunch of whiny bitches. I tell you what I'm about done with......this forum. :rolleyes: :(
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