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  1. Newly Spied: 2021 Bronco in Rugged Trim!

    There is no full size Bronco. Not now or ever. There is the "baby" and the mid size which this camouflaged unit appears to be. And I highly doubt there will be a V8 with all of the CAFE requirements. Just not going to happen. Not all that impressed if it does not have a solid front axle. How...
  2. The IFS vs SFA Thread

    If it does not have a SFA it will always be a starter against the Wrangler. Too hard to lift and modify and too expensive to do so, limited travel and durability, lockers, why bother with IFS? As far as being mommy friendly, plenty of mommies seem to manage the Wrangler just fine and there are...
  3. [Unofficial] Production Bronco Renders based on Bronco R

    Beats me but I followed it in my Tacoma, they were running close to 80 MPH. The speed limit here is 75. It definitely did not have a SFA if that means anything on the mule.
  4. At lease land Rover is listening . check this out.

    I do not see how a battery powered, front wheel drive cute-ute will be any sort of competitor to a Wrangler. Last I checked there are no recharge stations in the middle of nowhere. I can carry jerry cans, spare batteries or a 100 yard square solar array, probably not.
  5. [Unofficial] Production Bronco Renders based on Bronco R

    I think that is very close, I will buy one. It looks like the original Bronco and has mirrors that stay on the truck when the doors are off and it has a removable top. The boxy and square body is original looking. If people are expecting an OJ Bronco with a 5.0, I do not think that is what Ford...
  6. Which features of the Bronco is most important to you?

    I want what they promised, a vehicle much like the original Bronco in that it is a trim mid-size and with solid capability to go off road with simple design to allow modifications and lifting easily and larger tires. It must have a removable top and doors. I do not care anything about a full...
  7. Ugly Test Mule

    Maybe you just need a Ford Explorer. I just saw a Ford commercial that straight faced claimed the Exploder was the greatest exploration vehicle of all time! Like how is that? The greatest exploration vehicle of all times is the Jeep Wrangler hands down and whatever this Bronco thing is, could...
  8. Ugly Test Mule

    The body on this alleged test mule has nothing to do with the supposedly coming Bronco. It is just an irrelevant wrapper on the candy. If the real thing has that sloped back windshield, I will pass and just get the Wrangler I am slowly coming to think is the only real deal.
  9. Ford Creating Families Around Mustang, Bronco

    AWD, phooey and I agree on the speakers and built in obsolete electronics, I will keep the seatbelts/airbags and air conditioner. I guess I could live with selectable AWD but not full time AWD. I would really rather just have locking hubs and a shifter on the floor to engage 4WD. And rubber...
  10. Ford Creating Families Around Mustang, Bronco

    How about just put a solid front axle under it and as far as AWD/Full time, I will pass. Just give me what the Rubicon has, real 4 WD, low range and high range and make the low range low enough I can crawl over a Prius or motorcycle hoodlum gangs and I will be good to go. AWD belongs in...
  11. Ford looking for Broncos for Woodward

    If the Bronco is not out by June of next year, at least a definition of what it will be and exactly when then I will be buying a Wrangler. That is when I retire and have been planning to purchase.
  12. Car and Driver rendering

    If by modern is meant jelly bean styling, I will pass. I would prefer the Tonka to jelly bean. No point in spending time designing an aerodynamic off-road vehicle. The first thing that happens is the bumpers get removed for winches and recovery hooks and then tires and wheels with a lift. The...
  13. Car and Driver rendering

    This C&D render misses several supposedly known features, mirros, removable roof, Bronco on a square grill. Possibly they are not very smart researchers. Looks really boring to me. Toyota, please, please save me, or somebody, surely somebody can put together a Wrangler competitor. I really...
  14. Here Are All The Ford Bronco Trademarks Filed By FoMoCo Thus Far

    Because, the alleged target audience is the people falling over themselves to get in line to purchase Wranglers. The Wrangler is an adventure vehicle, that is what sells it. So, duh, Ford thinks naming a jelly bean mini crossover Adventurer is going to fool the would be Wrangler buyer into...
  15. Ford looking for Broncos for Woodward

    Yeah, show up at the event with a fleet of new Broncos with the tops off, doors off, lifted and ready to rock and roll. That would be different. You can ride the coat tails of a vehicle built in the 60s only so long if the Gen6 is all bullxxxx. Let's see a Gen6 go against a real Bronco, and...
  16. Everyday I Wake up Conflicted

    I just do not buy anything GM, sorry. Ford, sure, Chrysler/Jeep, depends on the vehicle, Toyota is my go to and then Honda. But Toyota has bored me to tears, Honda seems to have forgotten themselves, Ford, who knows what they are doing other than smoke, mirrors and big talk and GM, still no way...
  17. Ford, tell me something. Had to talk myself off the ledge.

    The Jeep YJ ran from 1987 to 1996. The TJ ran from 1997 through 2006. The JK ran from 2007 until 2018 and the JL from 2018 until? Anyone thinking the JL is going to be replaced in 2022 is mistaken. It may get a mid-run refresh but there will not be a wholesale makeover until at least 2027. The...
  18. Ford, tell me something. Had to talk myself off the ledge.

    Unless what they have up their sleeve is a pretty weak hand. What, they afraid Toyota might crank out another egg shaped FJ and steel their thunder? The Wrangler is not going to undergo another redesign for quite a few years so exactly what are they hiding and from who?
  19. Everyday I Wake up Conflicted

    I am not sure I understand the confliction. If you camp, fish, hunt, hike, explore, bicycle, kayak and need a vehicle to help you accomplish those or similar things, then I cannot see how a street legal race car would be acceptable. If you are Ricky Racer and need a track ready car but do not...


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