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  1. Local Florida Dealer (Labelle Ford) is demanding a $30,000 markup to my 2 door base Sasquatch!

    If the dealer is willing to do you dry and hard when you purchase a vehicle, how do you think the service dept is going to treat you? Then again, as auto dealer lobbyists lose clout in DC because other interests have more $$$ (think the tech giants) I wouldn’t be surprised to see local dealers...
  2. Local Florida Dealer (Labelle Ford) is demanding a $30,000 markup to my 2 door base Sasquatch!

    These situations make me sick. Ford is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure there’s a lot of initial excitement over the new Bronco, but that’ll wear off. And what will Ford be left with? Unhappy customers who they screwed with ADM, unhappy customers thousands and thousands upside down on...
  3. Mud rooster tail? bad news for paint for sasquatch owners?

    I have the RockBlokz on my JL and love them, they’re a high quality product. I only put them on the front when I’m heading to the hunting camp tho… as the camp is at the end of a few miles of dirt / gravel roads. My door paint would be toast without them on those roads. I don’t run them on...
  4. Jumping Ship? - What's Your Plan B Vehicle Purchase?

    At this point, the Wrangler Rubicon for sure. They’re selling the 3.6 / 8 speed minus the e torque again for awhile because of the chip shortage. I personally think this powertrain (simpler 3.6 / ZF 8 speed) will go down along with the 4.0L manual as the best ever offered in a Wrangler. IMO...
  5. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    1. You prefer the lifted Ford Flex vibe of the Bronco. I prefer the Jeep’s design, sane essential lines since 1941. I can’t argue with your preferences. And I’m fairness, the Flex was a great family trickster. 2. Your Bronco is definitely a better daily driver than my JL because it has a light...
  6. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    I guess I had the same misplaced optimism for both the Detroit Lions and the Detroit made Bronco. It’s a fact that the best design parts of the Bronco were copied directly from the Wrangler. Ford ran in to trouble when the Bronco design team implemented their own ideas. If Ford’s supply...
  7. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    Oh boy. You’re deep in to the Kool Aid. Rationalization. Intellectualization. Excuses. “I happen to like my low rent interior, now go enjoy your superior premium interior.” Is that supposed to be some kind of burn? Lol. Is TFL biased too? Is the world against the Bronco? Hardly. Remember...
  8. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    Happy Thanksgiving. Time to watch Detroit win one.
  9. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    I’m not searching out websites, I’m reading Motor Trend articles linked on this site. There’s a lot to like about the Bronco, it you saying a leaking top is somehow acceptable Just shows how poorly Ford brought this to market, I don’t this aiming for a top that keeps the interior dry is an...
  10. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    The good news is, the front tires of your Bronco will look like just these after about an hour playing in the rocks. Lol
  11. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    Well, for a “clean sheet” design with “no budget” and “no interference from management” AND the JK / JL to copy, Ford got a lot wrong. Then again, the reality is that everything about the underpinnings of the Bronco was constrained by the fact Ford chose to share a platform with the global...
  12. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    Did You watch the video where they pointed out how flimsy the interior of the Bronco is? How poorly executed the rear is? The low end quality of the interior panels? Thx poorly engineered tops? The new JL is leaps and bounds better than the Bronco is in it’s current form. I’m not saying Ford...
  13. Driving 80+ mph on highway with new Bronco?

    “With 268 hp, the turbocharged 2 Liter 16v Inline 4 gasoline engine accelerates this Wrangler Unlimited 2.0 to 62 mph in 7.6 seconds and on to a maximum speed of 110 mph” Not sure Id set the cruise control at 110MPH, but I set it at 83ish from time to time. Nice to know I’ve got another 35MPH...
  14. Driving 80+ mph on highway with new Bronco?

    I would think I it’ll be perfectly safe and reasonably stable at 80MPH, heck my 2 door JL Rubicon is fine. As for noise, this from Car and Driver: The off-road rubber starts singing at about 30 mph. Between 65 and 70 mph, wind noise overpowers tire roar. Even with the extra sound-deadening...
  15. Bronco vs Wrangler: Which is best? (MotorTrend)

    Ford missed the mark on so many things, the sum of those substandard items is impossible to ignore. The Bronco in its current form is just not well executed.
  16. NO Compensation for wait.

    There’s a nice dealer over at wranglerforum selling his allotment of 392s for 3% under invoice not including any incentives you might be eligible for. They don’t have a lot, but an $80K optioned out 392 with the recon extreme package and every other option can be had for $71,500 with a proper...
  17. Dealer not selling me my Bronco

    Read up on what Toyota is doing with the new LC overseas before delivering a vehicle. Owners are being forced to sign contracts that they will not resell it or export it.
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