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  1. Would Ford Everest cut into Bronco sales?

    It would probably cut into the sales very slightly but not a measurable amount. The Everest can tow more, can have 3 rows, and probably better fuel economy with the same engines. The Bronco has a retro/polerizing design language with removable roof and doors. I was going to buy a Bronco but I...
  2. Developing a HATE for my Load Range E Tires

    I have E rated Terra Grappler G2's on my 4Runner. I run 45 psi on-road and 20 psi off-road. I used to run 30 psi on-road like Toyota recommends but the gas mileage hit was horrible, now at 45 psi the mileage is much better and the road noise is lower. Keep in mind, these tires are rated to go...
  3. Raptor road trip, crazy?

    Meh, a Braptor is like a Trojan condom, it's meant to be used, rough or not.
  4. Raptor road trip, crazy?

    Raptor all the way. It's built to be driven and loved. Why are you dropping the R1T from the garage?
  5. So 4A is not what I had thought...

    4A on the streets is nothing new. My 2012 Limited 4Runner is always in 4A and that tech is a lot older than 2012. The Lexus GX and LX have the same tech.
  6. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    Thank you so much for the help. Looking at the window sticker on their website, if they're asking $67K that would be a $5K mark-up. I will still call them tomorrow morning as soon as they open to see if they are willing to make a move since it's the end of the year. I'm off work for the week...
  7. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    I'm not begging, my 4Runner is still running strong, I'm not in any hurry to get a new vehicle. With that said, I'm ready to jump as soon as the right one shows up. My point is it's exhausting dealing with these dealers that are just trying to rape the general population out of even more...
  8. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    how did you find this dealer?! I want Area 51, velocity blue, or AGM.
  9. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    I’m prepared to jump on a plane or drive, locating dealers that sell at MSRP is the biggest factor.
  10. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    What part of what I said isn’t true? I’ve been looking for the last couple months and can’t find what I want at MSRP. You shouldn’t have to “put in the work”! I’m spending about $60k on a vehicle, I shouldn’t have to “put in the work” to find one that isn’t marked up. I’ve called dealers as far...
  11. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    I still don't understand how you got the WT at MSRP unless you know someone. The crossroads in Apex told me that they would mark-up a WT with hardtop $10K. The first salesman I talked to even said they would mark-up a custom ordered Bronco $10K. I've been searching for an Area 51 or...
  12. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    How the hell have you gotten 3 Broncos at MSRP when others have waited years? I’ve been searching for a Wildtrak for a while now, every dealer I talk says due to high interest that model is marked-up $10k. You’re not wrong, however, one salesman can ruin the dealership for you.
  13. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    You sound like me, spite is a hell of an emotional driver. I actually called 2 other ford dealers to do that exact thing. Each dealer had a mark-up of $15-30k, which I refuse to pay any kind of mark-up. The world is a wild place when people rush to spend $10k over on a vehicle.
  14. Local dealership has 22 new Broncos on Christmas Day?!

    Crossroads is a scam. I went to Crossroads Ford of Apex a couple weeks ago to drive and buy an F-150 Raptor. The salesman said they don't do test drives on the Raptor and the "type of clientele" that actually want a Raptor don't need a test drive, they're people that want Porsche's. When I...
  15. Bronco Dealers: No-ADM, X-Plans & Special Discounts Master List

    Can the spreadsheet be updated? Every dealer in NC is charging ADM between $5-15K on bronco on their lot. I haven't kept track but some of them even charge ADM on custom orders. Does anyone have a line on a Wildtrak with high or lux at MSRP? I refuse to pay a mark-up of any kind.
  16. IF the order banks open in February... wouldn't it be for 2024 model year?

    If this is true I'm not getting a Bronco. I have talked to 5 dealers about various Wildtrak and they all have between $5-15K mark-ups, I REFUSE to pay a mark-up.
  17. Anyone else considering trading for the next-gen 4Runner?

    I've owned my 4Runner for 11 years and it's never given me an issue. If Toyota wasn't so tight lipped on release date expectations I would probably hold out to see what they have to offer on the next generation. As it stands now, the rumors are that the next 4Runner isn't going to be released...
  18. ADV Prototype Hardtop - Professional Pictures + TrailRax Roof Rack Compatibility

    Any news on the decibel readings and second photo/video shoot?
  19. 2022 4DR A51 Wildtrak - Desert Road Beast Build

    Thanks! My 4Runner is pretty noisy due to the Nitto Grapplers (Load Range E), just curious about the difference. I'm debating on ordering a soft top and getting an ADV single piece top, just massive amounts of money for not much gain.
  20. 2022 4DR A51 Wildtrak - Desert Road Beast Build

    How's the wind noise with the hard top? I'm going to be placing an order for a Wildtrak as soon as the order banks open back up.
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