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I'm aware of that and that's why i said you might get your wish. They (FORD) are switching to more SUV sales and that means more models at different price points. I modified my own f150 with bilstein 6112 & 5160 and icon A Arms and we both know that wasn't cheap so I understand your point and...

You may get your wish and I hope you do since they're banking on SUV sales for their future. Ford hit a home run with this and basing it on proven Raptor technology is why. We own 3 raptors in the family and they've all been great vehicles and ride great in all types of terrain. Ford didn't...

How many times do I have to state what ever they make will be an improvement! Notice everything I posted pertained to the new prototype even the SIDE by SIDE Shock stuff, which we'll see improved on the new model.. So you guys may still get your wish with the Brazilian model after they get it...

Why don't you go to the home page and read the headline on the Bronco .....Now read it again and try to comprehend what it says..........See how the chassis pre production parts worked..........HMMMM but then I can read and comprehend........Your opinion seems based more on wants rather than...

What's wrong my opinion a threat to your group think? I'll go away but you guys need to open your minds a bit because in the end the facts are supporting what I'm trying to tell you is coming and most likely what I'll buy. You on the other hand will have to buy a jeep to get that SFA you just...

What's wrong having to come to grips with reality a bit........If i was a troll I wouldn't be supporting what they're building and posting up supporting the brand...... But hey I'm not the one with the closed mind and realize more room is a plus for newer technology to work. You boys are worse...

You know your ignorance abounds..... Did you listen to the comments they made by the guys at Ford on the project? Open your mind and look at what they showed you......It's not me that lacks the ability to see the differences. By the way in reality it's costing them millions and millions, so you...

Open your eyes the frame is narrower and that enables them to do some things. The motors are lighter and getting smaller is also a plus. The comparisons are so that you realize new things are coming this ain't your grand daddy's bronco...........because frankly the sales it ended with would...

Have you heard the quote a pictures worth a thousand words......well then a video that can compare them should be worth more. Thsi has probably been posted but it's nice to see old vs new to really see where we're at today. Smooth ride also improves performance so lets admit that too. I don't...

A man of few words, that really grasps the situation and my intent!! It really isn't about leaves and moss and shiny wet rocks afterall. It's about practicality and bringing something appealing to market that performs in most situations.........that was always Fords #1 idea and the Raptor took...

Yes it was but in order to get more flex out a SFA you have to lift up something to get more flex too which in effect raises your center of gravity and we both know what happens then don't we..........we also know the bean counters and liability guys are going to make some decisions in the...

Oh yee of little faith..... It's obvious you don't have an engineering background or you wouldn't make such a remark. They told us we couldn't shoot guns at 1 mile and guess what it's happened and our elite troops have had them for decades, in fact a mile is easy. The same with other ordinances...

Ox the hardest door to open is the one with the guy with the closed mind standing in front of it. Engineers are taught to think outside the box not always within it's confines. The place where i hunt takes 1 1/2 hours to get there in a tried and true SFA jeep. No complaints it works. Well we...

You're right tough crowd........it's easier to just go away and let it shake out on it's own. That way those that can't understand what's being said won't be offended.

Funny how many of the test tracks are located on public land in close proximity to big suburban areas, so that's not exactly true. As to your point about vast lands that's partially true but many places we ride in are in national forests and other federal owned land parcels barren in some...

You may want to reread some of my posts I stated that very thing just in a different fashion just because some of you don't understand what I wrote that's not my issue. Oh and before you go there I'm sure my language is just fine too. Get serious.

Ox have you spent any time in a raptor in a real gnarly terrain situation? Well I have in fact on roads where guys have said I'll walk and get out of the truck....... Well what goes down must go up and vice versa and you know what they were riding out on the return trip and that footage you...

Now it may not be that bad since technology has progressed a bit. An advanced shock package can make all the difference in the world and it will save your teeth.......... Think positive and if they don't make it that way it will cost them sales and they're way ahead of the curve on that...

Be careful the ANTI RAPTOR crowd can be tough instead of giving Ford a little credit for all the design improvements they made with the truck especially in the suspension area and the ride. Many of the fan boys for different brands on here get upset when they know they're driving something...