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  1. I Might Get Crucified for this Post 🙃

    Looks good to me. Ignore the negative posts, haters gonna hate.
  2. Anyone able to do a color change with the pics that were released?

    Black version amateur photoshop.
  3. Bronco Raptor vs Jeep 392 Comparison [TFL]

    I think a non-XR 392 is around 5100 lbs, isn't the BR about 5700 lbs? I agree though the BR, even being so much heavier, will probably be a better high speed machine.
  4. Bronco Raptor vs Jeep 392 Comparison [TFL]

    Some people have paid over msrp for Wranglers, but many have paid under msrp for Wranglers, including the 392. Won't link to another forum, but the information is out there. A loaded 22' JLUR comes out to about $65k msrp, the same 392 comes out to about $78k. The 392 includes other upgrades to...
  5. Eruption Green Bronco Raptor spotted!

    Evidently Ford didn't think too much of the amateur photoshop I put up on BR6G in Sept. 2020:
  6. Bronco Raptor vs Jeep 392 Comparison [TFL]

    I like the BR; hideous looking, but still some great off road parts, but so far the 392 is 10 times as cool, no comparison.
  7. Picked up my wife’s 392 Wrangler. Some comparisons to my First Edition Bronco

    Awesome 392. Have you had it on a scale? FWIW the magazines say a 392 weighs around 5100, not 6100.
  8. Comparison Test: 2021 Ford Bronco vs. 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited

    I like the Bronco but I'm not sold on it. The JL in the test was a rental, FWIW a couple years ago I rented a JL when on a trip, the steering was bad, maybe it needed some maintenance? In any case the JL steering is relatively easy to upgrade, much easier than trying to remove 450 lbs from the...
  9. Ford Bronco Raptor Drops Camo For a Revealing Look… Likely to Get ~450 HP

    I like it, I think the final version w/o the camo will look pretty good, but so far I think the 392/ 450hp is better.
  10. 2021 Ford Bronco First Edition vs. Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4xe: Four-Wheel-Drive Face-Off

    Thanks for posting. Sounds like if someone wants a larger touchscreen, get the Bronco. If someone wants a better off roader, better outward visibility, better performance, and better mpg's, get the Jeep.
  11. Shots fired guys….

    Nice 392. Imho far superior to any currently available Bronco.
  12. I’ve had more than one person think my Bronco is a Jeep…

    Well Ford did copy the Wrangler to make the Bronco. The 4 door JL and Bronco dimensions are very close.
  13. Mike Levine saying outright he does NOT care about Granger/Chapman/SAC

    Which is which? Hint: the Ford is the one that weighs an additional 4 or 500 lbs.
  14. Mike Levine saying outright he does NOT care about Granger/Chapman/SAC

    With all respect, a lot of you folks sound like someone who's being abused in a relationship, ...and keeps going back to the abuser. I never understood the whole "reservation" thing; for another American suv that's mostly a copy of a vehicle that's been for sale for years? I honestly mean no...
  15. 4dr Wildtrack compared to an Audi SQ5

    FWIW Audi Q5 and SQ5 I think are rated to tow 4500 lbs.
  16. Thoughts on Staying or Going?/Ordered 2022 Today

    I drove an 11' JKUR, mostly stock, for 6 years. Stock size tires, no major issues, went on a few road trips with 3 adults and 2 or 3 large dogs plus bags, did fine (but way underpowered, the new JL's are much better, also a bit larger than the JK's). JD Powers, problems per 100 vehicles, 2015...
  17. Bronco curb weight

    FWIW Motor Trend tested a 2021 Bronco 4 door OB, non-sas., it weighed 4828 lbs. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2021-ford-bronco-outer-banks-4x4-suv-first-test/
  18. Bronco curb weight

    Reviving a thread, the weight of the 4 door Bronco compared to a 4 door Wrangler is of interest to me. Am I correct that a non-sas. 4 door badlands roughly corresponds to a JLUR? Don't both come with 285/70-17 tires? (?) From C&D in 2018, a JLUR (soft top) weighed 4629 lbs...
  19. Car and driver test of the 392 rubicon Xtreme package.

    Awesome vehicle, much more than I need, but I love it. FWIW other reviewers have said the 392 was limited to 99 mph, but C&D from what I understand reports what the vehicle really does, in this review they're saying 12.9 seconds at 104 mph in the quarter.
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