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So there are varieties of leather, w/o electric? Do you have a vinyl floor as well? Washability was the original reason for some seats not being electric . . . So they can get wet! Based on what @Beach_Bum said, is yours a 2dr or 4dr?
No but mine is a 2dr - which some said above don't have electric seats, likely due to the rear seat entry need. Carpet floor.
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As soon as someone verifies the new '24 Adjustable Headrests still fit the '22 seats, I'm prob gonna order some of the new ones

It sounds like the new '24 Headrests are MORE adjustable than any previous

For '24 they say " Four-Way Adjustable "
There's 4 positions (clicks), and they do adjust up and down as well. I would this would be an easy find at a junkyard off of totalled vehicles, as time goes on.
 

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Waiting on the order guide today....
 

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The BB never had steelies, always had the worst grill and wheel combo of any trim.

The problem is the price point, 23 Base starts at $34,890, BB starts at $39,130. You don't get much for that $4,240 price jump and that's not even including the price increase coming for 24. Let's say 24 prices go up another $2,000, so $6,240 over what a Base started at for 23.
I was going to respond with this exact thing, but figured I'd scroll a bit to see if anyone addressed it. Base being gone and not BB is a crime for buyers in my opinion. Base was $4k cheaper with very similar setup and ability to get SAS. Now Ford just increased base $4k on buyers. Why not just open up Mid pkg to Base buyers and get rid of BB? To me that would've been the best thing they could've done for the Bronco community and to be the best option on the low end for off road vehicles.
 

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I was going to respond with this exact thing, but figured I'd scroll a bit to see if anyone addressed it. Base being gone and not BB is a crime for buyers in my opinion. Base was $4k cheaper with very similar setup and ability to get SAS. Now Ford just increased base $4k on buyers. Why not just open up Mid pkg to Base buyers and get rid of BB? To me that would've been the best thing they could've done for the Bronco community and to be the best option on the low end for off road vehicles.
I've been saying the same since the Bronco came out. The BB is a horrible option financially, you get nothing for the over $4K but the option to upgrade to the mid package. This is another left-handed price increase. Ford continues to demonstrate that they have nothing but disdain for the average American middle-class buyer. The apple has fallen far from the tree that began with Henry Ford revolutionizing the automobile for the masses. I came from a long line of Ford buyers because when we were young we could afford an entry level Ford and became brand loyal. Now my kids can't afford a Ford, they are becoming brand loyal to Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai because they actually make affordable vehicles. When they mature financially they will likely move up to the Lexus, Infinity side of those brands. Ford is a short-sighted disappointment.
 

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THE ONLY way torque matters is torque to the ground, a vehicle does not "feel" or react to crank torque. Torque to the ground is radically altered by gearing and wheel sizes. Alter either and you can get much more torque to the ground, but you can't make a vehicle accelerate better overall, across multiple gears with either. INDEPENDENT of gearing hp (at the wheels per vehicle weight) is the single best metric that will determine a vehicles performance.

A high torque, low power engine, with proper gearing can certainly crawl a bit, but it can't pull you into your seat for long or provide good acceleration. A high power and low torque engine can do both, it just takes gearing (and perhaps more gears).

If you study up on the equations of vehicle dynamics and start graphing things vs. both rpm and vs. time, as well as plots for all gears, you will get a more informed perspective. I've written software that can predict performance
105 hp
265 tq
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4,56 gears
38.7” tires also 34.6”
Nv4500 trans
Np205 transfer


Now change the gears to 4.88 and trans to 4l80e 7000lbs

im curious what the software says
I have a 2 Door, so I've got ALL the cupholders!!!!!
i deleted the rear seats in mine, I should sell my cup holders!!!
 

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Stopped into my dealer this morning and their systems have yet to receive the push that gives them the 2024 order options. Should be some time today
 

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I was going to respond with this exact thing, but figured I'd scroll a bit to see if anyone addressed it. Base being gone and not BB is a crime for buyers in my opinion. Base was $4k cheaper with very similar setup and ability to get SAS. Now Ford just increased base $4k on buyers. Why not just open up Mid pkg to Base buyers and get rid of BB? To me that would've been the best thing they could've done for the Bronco community and to be the best option on the low end for off road vehicles.


I've been saying the same since the Bronco came out. The BB is a horrible option financially, you get nothing for the over $4K but the option to upgrade to the mid package. This is another left-handed price increase. Ford continues to demonstrate that they have nothing but disdain for the average American middle-class buyer. The apple has fallen far from the tree that began with Henry Ford revolutionizing the automobile for the masses. I came from a long line of Ford buyers because when we were young we could afford an entry level Ford and became brand loyal. Now my kids can't afford a Ford, they are becoming brand loyal to Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai because they actually make affordable vehicles. When they mature financially they will likely move up to the Lexus, Infinity side of those brands. Ford is a short-sighted disappointment.
I say this not because I have a BB and trying to justify it lol. But I never understood why people say the BB made no sense. The BB is the XLT of the line up. It gets you access to things like mid, locker, built in nav, sig lights, and the biggest upgrade no steelies haha without having to go up to OBX. The base was really limited of options because it was a base model. SAS being offered on it was amazing for the consumer but probably a terrible decision by Ford. Then still on the business side, the BB is probably where Ford actually wanted the base to start price wise, but they blocked it of options and really only offered it to beat wrangler pricing and advertise a starting price of below 30K.
 

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Updated with more 2024 Bronco changes -- shared by @RagnarKon
Would you mind please adding a date to each update as opposed to "First Update" etc...? This would allow us to understand what the list was last updated.

Thank you!!!

Good info in there...
 

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and the biggest upgrade no steelies haha without having to go up to OBX.
This would be true if the BB wheels were actually decent looking. I consider them a downgrade over the base wheels. I took them off mine and basically can’t even give them away due to Marketplace being flooded with everybody else trying to get rid of them.

At least with the base wheels you could paint them black and they would look decent.
 

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This would be true if the BB wheels were actually decent looking. I consider them a downgrade over the base wheels. I took them off mine and basically can’t even give them away due to Marketplace being flooded with everybody else trying to get rid of them.

At least with the base wheels you could paint them black and they would look decent.
Different strokes for different folks. Steelies to me make it look like someone stole your wheels and you had to go to a junk yard and get the cheapest thing you could afford to drive again lol. Doesn't matter the color steelies to me are hideous lol
 

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This would be true if the BB wheels were actually decent looking. I consider them a downgrade over the base wheels. I took them off mine and basically can’t even give them away due to Marketplace being flooded with everybody else trying to get rid of them.

At least with the base wheels you could paint them black and they would look decent.
yep, those BB wheels are fugly. My base had front-rear lockers and NAV from my damn phone via wireless car play. It was not missing anything that I wanted at all, especially considering that you can't get cooled seats in ANY Bronco trim (I'm in Texas and don't care about heated seats so much, especially since I could remote start my Base and get it toasty on those rare days I need it). Anyways, I'm not saying Ford should have got rid of the BB, I'm just saying Ford hates the middle class, they proved it when they got rid of small cars and took their starting price from $12K to $25K (getting rid of the Fiesta, starting vehicle is now a Maverick), and now going from $34K to probably $50K on Bronco. Message received.
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