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1) @mmcq - thread** - fail~July 21, 1146 mi
2) Jose Hernandez - posted - fail~Dec 2 ?
3) @jeremy.wilson237 - 1st post, further - fail Dec 10, 2012 mi
4) @ToddGinGA - 1st post, update - fail Dec 5, 1358 mi
5) @Bubbabow - 1st post, update - fail Nov 21, 4000 mi
6) @Nikole - 1st post - fail~Nov 1 ?, 2900 mi
7) @Hailey Jo - 1st post - fail Dec 4, 3581 mi
8) @Lance103222 - 1st post, update - fail Dec 23, 2024 mi
9) Seb Gray - posted, further - fail Jan 23, 3800 mi
10) @estone28 - thread** - fail Oct 21, 1466 mi
11) Steve Seale - posted - fail Oct 22, 003 mi
12) @Broncoshrimp - thread** - fail Sept 10, 2400 mi, new 2.7L
13) fbf of @bytheway - 1st post - fail Oct ?
14) @yogi_stvl - 1st post, further - fail Sept ?
15) charr124 @BN - posted - fail Oct ?, 1524 mi
16) @roofone - posted - fail Sept ?
17) @69 Mach I - thread** - fail Nov 14, 2744 mi, new 2.7L**
18) @Broncitis - posted, update - fail Nov 5, 2199 mi
19) @Broncitis - replacement also failed - Dec 2, 2200 mi
20) @International_George - 1st post, thread - fail Dec 24, 1795 mi
21) @Slosh1 - update, further - fail Dec 31, 3163 mi
22) @JollyFolly - 1st post, update - fail Jan 8, 4552 mi
23) @SS Hawk - 1st post - fail Jan 8, 1238 mi
24) @69-300 - 1st post - fail Jan 11, 1700 mi
25) @Icarus - 1st post - fail Jan 12, 3153 mi
26) @TravisC91 - 1st post, update - fail Jan 11, 1900 mi
27) @ChadJohnson - 1st post, update - fail Dec 10, 2900 mi
28) @Lv429 - 1st post - fail Jan 18, 2058 mi
29) - Confidential - fail Nov, ~3000 mi
30) @ScottTexas - 1st post, posted - fail Jan 19, 4171 mi
31) @matthiggins - 1st post - Jan 16, ~4900 mi

** threads covering repair experiences - (lines 17, 10, 12, & 1)

Other blown engine reports:
- two at dealer in WA - one at dealer in IL - seven at dealer in TX - one at dealer in SC
- NHTSA Complaints (Nat'l Highway Traffic Safety Admin)

- so far the engine build-dates run 21133 - 21281 - see how to read Engine Ser#
- see more info, below the photos

If Your Engine Fails - dealer service of course - also :
- good to call Ford Customer Svc - expedite repair, communication, cover rental
- good to send VIN & name @Ford Motor Company here in B6g via Conversation
- engine ser# would be helpful in B6g build-date tracking
-- or last-8 digits of VIN, then B6g can lookup engine ser#
- great advice w @Bmadda work experience Ford dealer Service Depts
- ? possibly contact NHTSA file complaint ? request recall action ?

Confidential Reports - anonymous reporting option
- use B6g Conversation -> ( envelope button [✉] upper right toolbar )
- send message to 'Lucchese'
- engine ser# - (see label photos)
-- or last-8 digits of VIN
- pls include mileage & fail-date if possible

example Engine Ser# Labels -

engine ser# & build date 21160 c.jpg

engine ser# & build date 21308 c.jpg


- B6g trying to see if the failures are confined to a range of engine build-dates
- maybe they were mostly built in same couple months ? - see also 2.7 Failed Engine Tracking Thread
- in 21 of the engine failures we have the build-date info

Engine Build-DateFail DateMiles'Seq#'
21133 - (13 May)​
Nov '21​
~3000​
c*​
21159 - (08 June)​
08 Jan '22​
4552​
120075​
21160 - (09 June)​
10 Sept '21​
2400​
120068​
21160 - (09 June)​
05 Nov '21​
2199​
120201​
21161 - (10 June)​
14 Nov '21​
2744​
120300​
21165 - (14 June)​
08 Jan '22​
1238​
120059​
21166 - (15 June)​
~ 01 Nov '21​
2900​
120417​
21166 - (15 June)​
12 Jan '22​
3153​
120435​
21175 - (24 June)​
24 Dec '21​
1795​
130942​
21179 - (28 June)​
11 Jan '22​
1900​
120662​
21181 - (30 June)​
19 Jan '22​
4171​
120672​
21207 - (26 July)​
23 Dec '21​
2024​
131088​
21209 - (28 July)​
21 Oct '21​
1466​
131010​
21209 - (28 July)​
21 Nov '21​
4000​
131391​
21209 - (28 July)​
04 Dec '21​
3581​
130806​
21214 - (02 Aug)​
10 Dec '21​
2012​
131422​
21216 - (04 Aug)​
? Oct '21​
?​
?​
21224 - (12 Aug)​
05 Dec '21​
1358​
120196​
21224 - (12 Aug)​
31 Dec '21​
3163​
120480​
21224 - (12 Aug)​
11 Jan '22​
1700​
120369​
21281 - (08 Oct)​
18 Jan '22​
2058​
130834​

hist - 2.7L Engine Stats - 2022.Jan.26.jpg


bivariate - mileage vs ebd - 2022.Jan.26.jpg

Blown 2.7L Build-Dates - Central Fail Range - 2022.Jan.26.png

Notes:
- in October a Ford Lima employee (@Jay3630, deleted soon after) made five posts re 'bad batch of brittle valves' - 'April batch' - see posts #1, #2, #3, #4, #5
- if the failures are caused by 'bad valves', maybe that 'April batch' has been working its way thru the system - then the problems could subside ?
- late October a Ford Service Technician wrote a post re nationwide frequency of failures - he said 'about thirty in the last month . . recorded in the Ford Technicians Forum page'
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What were the engine build dates? I'm not sure what the numeric codes mean.
 

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Keep the popcorn popping....I doubt this story is going away.

So....I wonder how many 2021 Broncos are sitting in customer driveways so far?
Some percentage - 60%/70% - will have the 2.7
Some percentage of that likely doesn't have 1,000 miles

And 18/19 blown engines only represents folks posting their issue on this forum. So, multiply that by 3x...5x...10x?
 

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Is have to say that 24 people just on this forum does seem like a lot. That’s 24 people from this group:
- Bronco 6g member
- AND has their Bronco delivered already
- AND got the v6
- AND has enough miles on it for the problem to show up
- AND decided to post about it

I’d suspect that that’s a fairly small group of people in total, and 24 is not a negligible subset of that group.

EDIT: From 19 to 24 to keep up with the current number
 
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Keep the popcorn popping....I doubt this story is going away.

So....I wonder how many 2021 Broncos are sitting in customer driveways so far?
Some percentage - 60%/70% - will have the 2.7
Some percentage of that likely doesn't have 1,000 miles

And 18/19 blown engines only represents folks posting their issue on this forum. So, multiply that by 3x...5x...10x?
At least a whole shifts worth right?? A weeks worth of shifts worth?
(totally making shit Up here..)
But seriously I think it’s hundreds if not a couple thousand ticking timebomb 2.7ers out there. My BaseSquatch is (supposedly) being finished this coming week and I am peeved about all this zip tie bullshit I have to fuck with in a month.
 

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Is have to say that 19 people just on this forum does seem like a lot. That’s 19 people from this group:
- Bronco 6g member
- AND has their Bronco delivered already
- AND got the v6
- AND has enough miles on it for the problem to show up
- AND decided to post about it

I’d suspect that that’s a fairly small group of people in total, and 19 is not a negligible subset of that group.
I know that I've seen a few posts in FB groups of 2.7 failures. Because of privacy concerns, many of the FB groups admins have made the groups private so there is no way to share the information. If you share a link, it just takes you to the groups splash page asking you to join. I could screen shot the posts, but that seems to be more work only for the Ford Apologists to shout down any fault that is mentioned.
 

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Nicely composed list. I understand every engine has its own set of issues (2.3 included) but at this point I'm feeling relieved I don't have the 2.7 on order. I really hope Ford can sort this out soon.
 
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1) @mmcq - 1st post
2) Jose Hernandez - 1st posted
3) @jeremy.wilson237 - 1st post - further
4) @ToddGinGA - 1st post
5) @Bubbabow - 1st post - further
6) @Nikole - 1st post
7) @Hailey Jo - 1st post
8) @Lance103222 - 1st post
9) father of @Shinoko - 1st post - further
10) @estone28 - 1st post
11) Steve Seale - 1st posted
12) @Broncoshrimp - 1st post
13) fb of @bytheway - 1st post
14) @yogi_stvl - 1st post - further
15) via BN - @Snowdogyyz - 1st posted
16) @roofone - 1st posted
17) @69 Mach I - 1st post
18) @Broncitis - 1st posted - further
19) @Broncitis - replacement also crapped out

- ? credibility ? - no independent confirmation any of these - only posted info
- so far engine build-dates run 21160 - 21216 - see how to read Engine Ser#
- most recent engine build-date could be @Hailey Jo - Sept ? - no Ser# info yet
- ? other posts overlooked ? - there could be more

Example Engine Ser# Labels -

engine ser# & build date 21160 c.jpg

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Why do you have a pic of my Julian sticker date 2nd one? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thursday November 2th 2021. Hasn’t blown yet! 😂 Current 2k miles.
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Keep the popcorn popping....I doubt this story is going away.

So....I wonder how many 2021 Broncos are sitting in customer driveways so far?
Some percentage - 60%/70% - will have the 2.7
Some percentage of that likely doesn't have 1,000 miles

And 18/19 blown engines only represents folks posting their issue on this forum. So, multiply that by 3x...5x...10x?

........and some 2.7's still set on the lot, like the Wildtrak at a dealer near me. :)

I haven't followed it closely, seeing how Ford seems not to want to build certain Broncos. I am shocked someone is on their second one already !!!!!!!!! That would make it seem to be more in the electronics not a bad batch of parts. Bad batch of parts would all be built generally the same time.
 
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Keep the popcorn popping....I doubt this story is going away.

So....I wonder how many 2021 Broncos are sitting in customer driveways so far?
Some percentage - 60%/70% - will have the 2.7
Some percentage of that likely doesn't have 1,000 miles

And 18/19 blown engines only represents folks posting their issue on this forum. So, multiply that by 3x...5x...10x?
It’s 18-19 posted on a small forum of a small sample size. That would make it MORE significant, not less. No one knows how many may or may not be blown in the general public. If it was 18 out of every 2.7 bronco produced, THAT would be very insignificant.

I’m not saying this is some major issue, but using the argument of there’s 18 on this forum, therefore it’s a small sample is not accurate. 18 out of however many 2.7’s owned and driven of bronco6g users only could actually be somewhat significant.
 
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[QUOTE="Lucchese, post: 1072751]
- so far engine build-dates run 21160 - 21216 - see
[/QUOTE]

Mine is 21169. No issues so far, almost to 3K miles. But, if it happens, it happens, it's under warranty.
 
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