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. . the criteria for being a troll . .
Pointing out potential issues with the bronco or ford in general (ie MIC top, 2.7 blown motors, et)
Not owning one even though you have one on order (in my case 2).
Owning something other than a ford in the mean time.
Not being a blinded brand fanboy at all times.

Sound about right???
Yeah we need to get 'em a bunch of T-shirts
- front & back - 0.0001% er

- or maybe @Wanted33 has the right answer . .


Have you by chance mentioned that to Ford yet? :cool:
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this is why he’s a salesman and not a mechanic or engineer
That's horseshit! (What the saleman said). This is the most common engine in the most common light truck sold in the U.S. The failures are for a narrow band of build dates, after several model years of reliable performance. Did Bronco owners in Jun-Aug 2021 suddenly become crazed drag-racers? I haven't heard of 'vehicle break-in" issues for several decades. I think the computerization of all vehicles has dropped these issues below statistical significance.

Manufacturers get bad batches of parts. These engines were made in the crappy Covid supply chain restart. Sloppy QC.

@Cat was a QC professional at Boeing. She can probably tell some "war stories"! :) Stuff happens.
 

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Ironically, GM has the same problem with their recent 6.2. Escalade, Yukon and Tahoe

Wonder if they have/had the same valve supplier?

Hardly any bashing on the Caddy forum - dispite the 50k markups and 100K vehicle price
 

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Yeah we need to get 'em a bunch of T-shirts
- front & back - 0.0001% er

- or maybe @Wanted33 has the right answer . .




they're watching
Wait, what'd I do. I've been good........:unsure: :cool:
 

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That's horseshit! (What the saleman said). This is the most common engine in the most common light truck sold in the U.S. The failures are for a narrow band of build dates, after several model years of reliable performance. Did Bronco owners in Jun-Aug 2021 suddenly become crazed drag-racers? I haven't heard of 'vehicle break-in" issues for several decades. I think the computerization of all vehicles has dropped these issues below statistical significance.

Manufacturers get bad batches of parts. These engines were made in the crappy Covid supply chain restart. Sloppy QC.

@Cat was a QC professional at Boeing. She can probably tell some "war stories"! :) Stuff happens.
Yes...product manufacturing has its woes. An effective Quality Management System will correct and improve.. and WELCOME Customer feedback. Ford has not welcomed mine so far.
 

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I have an update for everyone…
Talked w/my dealer tonight. My new engine is on back order, duh right? Well it is on back on from Ford Engineering because they are re-engineering the motor. So bittersweet, I will have to wait longer but it will be with a new improved motor.
So it does sound like Ford has figured things out and is working on it.
I would love for someone recently in the same situation try and find out as well on their end, it would validate.
Now, question is, how far and widespread is the issue among current Bronco’s on the road? Is Ford building a fix for current (recall)?
I am headed to the dealer tomorrow to pick up my amazing new Ford Echo Sport as a loaner for god knows how long. If anybody has specific questions you want me to ask, please shoot them to me. I plan on being there for a little. I am hoping to get the spark plug as well.
Questions we have been asking are which cylinder failed, and intake or exhaust ( if known). Sounds like Ford has put a hold on replacements till they figure out how far the problem goes...thats not an unusual move for them when a rash of failures happens
 

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#26 incoming, it sounds like @TravisC91 had the same problem as me and potentially same outcome.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/won’t-start-in-freezing-weather.31836/page-4#post-1110961
Confirmed, talked to the head mechanic today and he was working on expediting a new engine to me. He said they found something metal in the pan about the size of a wrist pin from one of the pistons, but haven't confirmed what it is yet and he said he's not going to tear it apart. I guess I'll be driving this ugly red Bronco for a while :cry:
 

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Confirmed, talked to the head mechanic today and he was working on expediting a new engine to me. He said they found something metal in the pan about the size of a wrist pin from one of the pistons, but haven't confirmed what it is yet and he said he's not going to tear it apart. I guess I'll be driving this ugly red Bronco for a while :cry:
Keep us posted on your timeline. My ford rep is saying no ETA on parts. It’s been escalated, but my guess is they are doing some engineering changes as mentioned previously. Also, be sure to get on @Lucchese list of blown motors.
 

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I don't recall any of those turbines dropping valves at 30,000ft so thank you for that @Cat
No Sh**, I was going to post something similar last night and decided against it. That being said, airplane engines do fail in flight, only they are few and far between.
Ironically, the only engine failure I've ever experienced was a Turbine failure in a helicopter at 1500 ft. Fuel control unit failed, ultimately resulted in a shutdown engine mid-flight with 4 passengers on board.
 
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I keep seeing varying reports on the 2.7 being the same or different between the bronco and F-150,. Does anyone know for sure which is true? Are they the same?
 

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No Sh**, I was going to post something similar last night and decided against it. That being said, airplane engines do fail in flight, only they are few and far between.
Ironically, the only engine failure I've ever experienced was a Turbine failure in a helicopter at 1500 ft. Fuel control unit failed, ultimately resulted in a shutdown engine mid-flight with 4 passengers on board.
an air assault family member of mine always reminds us helicopters aren’t like cars: if they’re not leaking oil, it means they ran out of oil

glad you walked away from that one, sounds terrifying!
 

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No Sh**, I was going to post something similar last night and decided against it. That being said, airplane engines do fail in flight, only they are few and far between.
Ironically, the only engine failure I've ever experienced was a Turbine failure in a helicopter at 1500 ft. Fuel control unit failed, ultimately resulted in a shutdown engine mid-flight with 4 passengers on board.
Saw that a medical helicopter crashed in Philly the other day. All 4 survived! Amazing what pilots can do under duress.
 

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an air assault family member of mine always reminds us helicopters aren’t like cars: if they’re not leaking oil, it means they ran out of oil

glad you walked away from that one, sounds terrifying!
Here's the data graph I pulled off the heli's computer after the incident. You can see that all was well, then the fuel system went haywire, and at the end, you can see engine shutoff. It's where all the data points fall off as the turbine spooled down. It was just a little crazy.

EMU.PNG
 

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Man, at least no accident - happened in driveway ? - I remember your post from couple days ago

- maybe you have engine label - build-date info -
- or maybe the Service Dept can take a look & provide it to you -

engine ser# & build date 21308 c.jpg
My build date was August 9. As for the engine number, I will update when I get it.
 
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