wow. bronco nation? more like big brother nation
You should go pay it a visit in the showroom and get a pic of the build number/assembly date sticker on the engine.
Unicorns and rainbows only allowed over there. They’re definitely not interested in ANY issues or potential problems with the bronco. I just quit reading over there. I want ALL info, warts and all. The good and the bad. I’m looking forward to my eventual bronco and I want to know as much as possible about it. Why some want to pretend MIC 1.0 didn’t happen (remember all the “nothing to see hear” folks?) or that there’s a potential 2.7 issue just amuses me.wow. bronco nation? more like big brother nation
So basically Toyota needs to release a convertible FJ. Gotcha.I still don't believe this is a 'significant' problem that everyone needs to be freaking out about. The numbers aren't there, yet, and hopefully won't be. It's been narrowed down to 2 specific time frames, and Ford is actively addressing the issues when they occur. They're just not coming out and telling everyone the sky is falling, or it would kill their sales. From the samples shown, they don't need to. If this were like the issues that GM has been having for the last 3+ years with their Dynamic Fuel Management system bending pushrods and collapsing lifters at an alarming rate, than yes we should be worried. I've seen DOZENS and DOZENS of videos of GM shops with 5-10 newer SUV's with less than 5k miles sitting on their lots waiting to be fitted with new parts, and the forums are full of them. This Tahoe forum alone has 4 pages of threads that come up when you search 'lifter issue'. Not to mention the fact GMs fix isn't even guaranteed to fix the issue long term.
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/08/how-gm-dealers-handle-engine-valve-lifter-issues/
Just by seeing the part number change on the heads shows that Ford is already on top of the issue. I'd watch closely, but unless you're near the aforementioned time frames for the bad valves, just send it.
You've got some great points, but we all waited SO long for our rigs, many of us use them as daily drivers. It does not sound like resolutions are coming in very timely, nor does having someone take almost your entire car apart instill much confidence. We're allowed to be worried. I called my buddy in Houston this weekend who worked in service at a Ford dealer and he claimed at least that seven Broncos came in with blown engines within a couple days. The issue is likely a little bigger than we have the visibility to see, but certainly not sky is falling.
And how do YOU know Ford is actively addressing it, unless you work for them. Dont belittle this issue or our concerns. It has been pure cooincidence that one of these 2.7s has not failed while passing a semi tractor trailer! Does someone have to pass before we get real info from Ford, which really is the core issue. Why cant Ford send a message to those 2.7 owners in the window, telling them what is being done and how they will address it? Ford communications SUCK!I still don't believe this is a 'significant' problem that everyone needs to be freaking out about. The numbers aren't there, yet, and hopefully won't be. It's been narrowed down to 2 specific time frames, and Ford is actively addressing the issues when they occur. They're just not coming out and telling everyone the sky is falling, or it would kill their sales. From the samples shown, they don't need to. If this were like the issues that GM has been having for the last 3+ years with their Dynamic Fuel Management system bending pushrods and collapsing lifters at an alarming rate, than yes we should be worried. I've seen DOZENS and DOZENS of videos of GM shops with 5-10 newer SUV's with less than 5k miles sitting on their lots waiting to be fitted with new parts, and the forums are full of them. This Tahoe forum alone has 4 pages of threads that come up when you search 'lifter issue'. Not to mention the fact GMs fix isn't even guaranteed to fix the issue long term.
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/08/how-gm-dealers-handle-engine-valve-lifter-issues/
Just by seeing the part number change on the heads shows that Ford is already on top of the issue. I'd watch closely, but unless you're near the aforementioned time frames for the bad valves, just send it.
How in the world does Ford still have so much good will with you?I still don't believe this is a 'significant' problem that everyone needs to be freaking out about. The numbers aren't there, yet, and hopefully won't be. It's been narrowed down to 2 specific time frames, and Ford is actively addressing the issues when they occur. They're just not coming out and telling everyone the sky is falling, or it would kill their sales. From the samples shown, they don't need to. If this were like the issues that GM has been having for the last 3+ years with their Dynamic Fuel Management system bending pushrods and collapsing lifters at an alarming rate, than yes we should be worried. I've seen DOZENS and DOZENS of videos of GM shops with 5-10 newer SUV's with less than 5k miles sitting on their lots waiting to be fitted with new parts, and the forums are full of them. This Tahoe forum alone has 4 pages of threads that come up when you search 'lifter issue'. Not to mention the fact GMs fix isn't even guaranteed to fix the issue long term.
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/08/how-gm-dealers-handle-engine-valve-lifter-issues/
Just by seeing the part number change on the heads shows that Ford is already on top of the issue. I'd watch closely, but unless you're near the aforementioned time frames for the bad valves, just send it.
Let the fray begin!!!!
If he's claiming that, have him get some snapshots of the engine dates. Lets help prove or disprove the situation.
