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In a serious note: considering the information we currently have at hand, there appears to have been a QA issue at the Lima Ohio Engine Plant related to out of spec engine head parts, i.e.,. "Supply based and design issues negatively impacted external quality issues. . . . Nano valve supplier issue was resolved with more robust design and material changes at the supplier" as published in the "State of the Plant" Lima Engine Plant January 2022 newsletter. It appears that this letter was from the Lima Engine Plant Manager Shawn Stewart. We are relatively certain based on what was published by the Lima plant that they knew they had a problem with something related to supplier/suppliers meeting specs for our 2.7L EcoBoost Engines, (Nano engines). Shawn Stewart has admitted so much in his newsletter. I am assuming, and look to the group to correct me, that they had built engines that did not meet some level of external quality assurance indicator. I ask, did valves fail on a test stand indicating valve QA issues? Since the news letter references external quality indicators, not internal quality indicators, I propose completed engines failed some sort of test, not that they caught out of spec parts before they were built into the engines. But if I am wrong and what they are referencing was an external valve manufacture quality indicators that stopped production, then that is IMHO is what should have happened. And if that is what happened, those of us outside of the failure envelope should have reason to be hopeful. Will Ford share this with us?
Shutting down production for a time would be a good sign. The newsletter references a "cancelation of 75+ days due to shortages". An out of spec NANO valve once identified resulting in a shortage should result in NANO production stoppage. This is a good thing to read. I wonder if anyone at the Lima plant can say; "Quality is free". Because the lack of quality is very very expensive in the cost of doing something over the right way, and loss of customer loyalty. My future loyalty to Ford is most definitely going to be based on how confident I am in my Bronco between today and whenever I decide to sell it, if I do sell it at all.
I don't know the tolerance level Ford Engine Plant has for quality assurance, but any company that claims they build only quality would shut down production if any part going into their produce failed to meet internal quality assurance measures. Perhaps we would not have anything to talk about on this thread had FoMoCo shut down Nano production the instant they determined they had out of spec parts until the out of spec part issue was resolved. If they had, we should know if our engine build had the bad valves or not. What happened to these engines is a topic for discussion I think. My experience is that companies like to talk about quality until they don't. It was a buzz word for most of my career. I always thought that at Ford, "Quality is Job One" was their mantra until I found out recently that they dropped it many years ago.
In closing, if you knew your company built a number of Broncos with bad engine parts, would you consider stacking those Bronco on your lot until you could fix the problem, or would you just send them out to the dealerships to sell? I think I would park them, and then send out hammocks and backpack to the reservation holders until I could fix them. Possibly claim the issues was unrelated to an engine subject to EB. I will be interested to see if any 2021 Broncos built last year that were held back for MIC tops end up on Dealership lots with AB Engines.
Shutting down production for a time would be a good sign. The newsletter references a "cancelation of 75+ days due to shortages". An out of spec NANO valve once identified resulting in a shortage should result in NANO production stoppage. This is a good thing to read. I wonder if anyone at the Lima plant can say; "Quality is free". Because the lack of quality is very very expensive in the cost of doing something over the right way, and loss of customer loyalty. My future loyalty to Ford is most definitely going to be based on how confident I am in my Bronco between today and whenever I decide to sell it, if I do sell it at all.
I don't know the tolerance level Ford Engine Plant has for quality assurance, but any company that claims they build only quality would shut down production if any part going into their produce failed to meet internal quality assurance measures. Perhaps we would not have anything to talk about on this thread had FoMoCo shut down Nano production the instant they determined they had out of spec parts until the out of spec part issue was resolved. If they had, we should know if our engine build had the bad valves or not. What happened to these engines is a topic for discussion I think. My experience is that companies like to talk about quality until they don't. It was a buzz word for most of my career. I always thought that at Ford, "Quality is Job One" was their mantra until I found out recently that they dropped it many years ago.
In closing, if you knew your company built a number of Broncos with bad engine parts, would you consider stacking those Bronco on your lot until you could fix the problem, or would you just send them out to the dealerships to sell? I think I would park them, and then send out hammocks and backpack to the reservation holders until I could fix them. Possibly claim the issues was unrelated to an engine subject to EB. I will be interested to see if any 2021 Broncos built last year that were held back for MIC tops end up on Dealership lots with AB Engines.
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