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Yea but you can use the X-Plan PIN from MCA to purchase any Ford vehicle that is eligible for X-Plan pricing.

I subscribed to MCA too for the $25 just to be able to get a PIN when I order.

Don't really care about the actual club or being affiliated with the club. I just want a decent price.
I can see the MCA website crashing from all the Bronco members signing up for x-plan pin.





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Dude! Hold on a bit man. Customers don't care about the details within your logic. If you're Ford, all of that crap is your problem to figure out. A ton of guys who earn well over $500K a year run variables and procurement on all of this every day.

If you're not ready to release your product, then don't release your product. However, even after posturing for 4 long ass years, Ford finally did show us what they've got and what they've got is an absolute world beater.

This may be the biggest vehicle release in the last 30 years and that says a lot. Ford can't fuck this up! The literal future of the company depends on it. So don't rain on all of these customers. These guys here on this forum are full of passion, many are enthusiasts and are the best customers to have. Not because you can sell them a car; that's a transaction. But many of us will buy or build out this Bronco in ways and do things with them that will basically be marketing rolling down the street, which will lead to even more sales and new potential customers fight to be like and look like many of the guys on this forum.

Everyone here has a right to be pissed, and I'll tell you this, Ford better be wise to listen. We don't care what they have to do, how hard the job is, what the challenges are; whatever! All we care about is that Ford delivers on what they've teased for far too long.

If guys want to vent tonight, let us vent.
I asked questions. Care to provide the answers or just tell me how you don’t care? June is 20th 2021 is still Spring. Not caring about logic for the sake of being illogical is kind of silly don’t you think?

For quite a while now I’ve been giving people a lot of info. For quite a while now I’ve been trying to manage their expectations. For quite a while now, I’ve been watching their expectations grow and figured I’d see them deflate.

Saying - just press the button and get it on doesn’t work when you’re building a new vehicle. 2020 Explorer is proof.
 

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Dude! Hold on a bit man. Customers don't care about the details within your logic. If you're Ford, all of that crap is your problem to figure out. A ton of guys who earn well over $500K a year run variables and procurement on all of this every day.

If you're not ready to release your product, then don't release your product. However, even after posturing for 4 long ass years, Ford finally did show us what they've got and what they've got is an absolute world beater.

This may be the biggest vehicle release in the last 30 years and that says a lot. Ford can't fuck this up! The literal future of the company depends on it. So don't rain on all of these customers. These guys here on this forum are full of passion, many are enthusiasts and are the best customers to have. Not because you can sell them a car; that's a transaction. But many of us will buy or build out this Bronco in ways and do things with them that will basically be marketing rolling down the street, which will lead to even more sales and new potential customers fight to be like and look like many of the guys on this forum.

Everyone here has a right to be pissed, and I'll tell you this, Ford better be wise to listen. We don't care what they have to do, how hard the job is, what the challenges are; whatever! All we care about is that Ford delivers on what they've teased for far too long.

If guys want to vent tonight, let us vent.
Amen brother
Couldn’t agree more!
 

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I asked questions. Care to provide the answers or just tell me how you don’t care? June is 20th 2021 is still Spring. Not caring about logic for the sake of being illogical is kind of silly don’t you think?

For quite a while now I’ve been giving people a lot of info. For quite a while now I’ve been trying to manage their expectations. For quite a while now, I’ve been watching their expectations grow and figured I’d see them deflate.

Saying - just press the button and get it on doesn’t work when you’re building a new vehicle. 2020 Explorer is proof.
I get what you are saying, lots of logic but Ford should really have expected a lot of this, they had to know the intrigue the bronco would bring and had much of this hammered out, Covid has delayed much of this and we get that but Ford expecting customers to reserve a 40k plus vehicle and then possible wait 18 months for delivery is not good business..
 

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Keep in mind that this is how a ton of this reads to people. Also, if you knew my sense of humor, your inner monologue would sound different and you’d understand my side a bit more. I promise, I’m not picking on you.

Public - Show us the damn Bronco already. Screw COVID we deserve to see it. You suck. You’re liars. You cheated us. You betrayed us. We hate Mach E. We hate V6’s, windows suck, you suck, automatics suck, buttons suck, screens suck and I hate seatbelts.

Ford - Shows Bronco and says it’ll be here in Spring of ‘21, we’d love to sell it now, but we aren’t ready. Shows Pre-production versions with Pre-production parts and tells you they are Pre-production.

Public - enlarges photos down to the pixel - This thing looks like unfinished crap!

Ford - Yeah, we know, these aren’t the finished products but we wanted to give you something to keep your interest. You know, what you asked for. We want to make this right so we are going to move things out just a little further.

Public - Screw that build it now.

People get their wish

Ford - ok, here you go, Builds Bronco now with preproduction parts. Doesn’t iron things out.

Public - This thing is crap.

Do you want it now and crappy or do you want it right and a little later?
 

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I asked questions. Care to provide the answers or just tell me how you don’t care? June is 20th 2021 is still Spring. Not caring about logic for the sake of being illogical is kind of silly don’t you think?

For quite a while now I’ve been giving people a lot of info. For quite a while now I’ve been trying to manage their expectations. For quite a while now, I’ve been watching their expectations grow and figured I’d see them deflate.

Saying - just press the button and get it on doesn’t work when you’re building a new vehicle. 2020 Explorer is proof.
Yes, you've had some very good posts; I've read several of them even before tonight. However, a company in the hole (which Ford is), needs to bet the entire damn farm when you've obviously struck gold.

Only vehicles Ford really need to focus on are the F-150,250,350 Bronco (screw the sport for now), and maybe Explorer, at least for now.

Retooling factories is close to impossible, but the impossible also just happened several times over. COVID-19, happened, the economy is in the shit, and somehow Ford didn't lay a turd and actually made a vehicle that literally everyone on 4 continents wants.... badly! That's Bronco; it's that goddamned big.

So, I recognize that you're doing what you can to be helpful, but honestly, we don't care man. Excuses are monuments of nothing and all they show is incompetence. When you can't deliver when it counts, you just look well, flaccid.

Look, you're job is on the line here too man. The money that Ford has lost over the past 18 months is a lot to bounce back from. We've also seen how stupid and outdated owners of Ford dealerships are wanting to be with Bronco too. What many of you sales guys and your bosses have failed to realize is, internet.

Internet and a forum like Bronco6G literally exploding to the point where even MotorTrend can't break stories and comes here for the scoop. The world has changed man. COVID-19 has served as a slap in the face for all of us. However, Ford and all of these useless dealerships who survive off of fleet sales are more vulnerable than ever and the decisions made now determine whether or not you'll all survive the next 5 years.

Add all of that to your logic as well. Economics don't lie.
 

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Listen, no one here understands your frustration more than me. It sucks. It absolutely sucks big time that it’s been so damned long before you all saw this thing. Ford is really trying to give everyone what they want and they’re trying to convert a century old sales model in a very short period of time. Could you imagine buying your Tesla - I use them as an example because of how their sales model works - the way they have done it for a decade and then on your next purchase having them tell you that you can’t do that anymore?

This is a step in a totally new direction. It’s gonna be rocky my friends.
 

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Keep in mind that this is how a ton of this reads to people. Also, if you knew my sense of humor, your inner monologue would sound different and you’d understand my side a bit more. I promise, I’m not picking on you.

Public - Show us the damn Bronco already. Screw COVID we deserve to see it. You suck. You’re liars. You cheated us. You betrayed us. We hate Mach E. We hate V6’s, windows suck, you suck, automatics suck, buttons suck, screens suck and I hate seatbelts.

Ford - Shows Bronco and says it’ll be here in Spring of ‘21, we’d love to sell it now, but we aren’t ready. Shows Pre-production versions with Pre-production parts and tells you they are Pre-production.

Public - enlarges photos down to the pixel - This thing looks like unfinished crap!

Ford - Yeah, we know, these aren’t the finished products but we wanted to give you something to keep your interest. You know, what you asked for. We want to make this right so we are going to move things out just a little further.

Public - Screw that build it now.

People get their wish

Ford - ok, here you go, Builds Bronco now with preproduction parts. Doesn’t iron things out.

Public - This thing is crap.

Do you want it now and crappy or do you want it right and a little later?
You are forgetting..

Ford- please customers here is some vague info, vague reservation details, vague
Ordering but please please stand in line reserve this new wild design and then we will string you along to keep the intrigue...

they aren’t innocent in this- they are trying to sell a product , they are marketing said product at least they could provide their customer base more concrete info instead of random website updates after the fact..
 

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You are forgetting..

Ford- please customers here is some vague info, vague reservation details, vague
Ordering but please please stand in line reserve this new wild design and then we will string you along to keep the intrigue...

they aren’t innocent in this- they are trying to sell a product , they are marketing said product at least they could provide their customer base more concrete info instead of random website updates after the fact..
The launch was pretty rocky. I give you that for sure. One issue they faced was the timing of the product details and dealer specific URL for ordering. That was super weird. The internet explodes with reservations and the dealers are learning about the process and product in real time together. Like WTF? Give me something I can use to answer questions and not look like a moron!
 

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I canceled my reservation yesterday after taking a deal for a Rubicon. Seems like it was a smart move.
Two or four door? What color?
 

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I canceled my reservation yesterday after taking a deal for a Rubicon. Seems like it was a smart move.
Don't blame you, seems like Ford will have a lot of people go that route if they don't address their reservation/ordering process soon. Ford is about to lose a ton of money once again because of their incompetence.
 

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