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2021 Bronco engines - I need at least a V6
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So much for the BS that Ford can't / won't put a V8 in a midsize. They realized how underwhelming the 2L turbo was.
Ford [Ranger] Raptor V8 to go on sale in Oz next year
Ford [Ranger] Raptor V8 to go on sale in Oz next year
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Sorry, I was told here this was never going to happen. I guess technically, it's not in the Bronco (yet).
Maybe even a Ranger Raptor Roush special..... Could be high 10's with some tuning and AWD..........
https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-f-150-raptor-supercharged-v8
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So they are selling it with the diesel engine and then some local outfit in Australia is swapping in coyotes and you can buy it at a Ford dealer? Sort of like the Roush stuff?
I know that article claims it "will adhere to OEM durability and safety requirements and be sold through Ford dealers will full five-year warranty protection" but I'm still skeptical it would pass US crash tests. This seems like a great workaround though. Curious what the price will be compared to the base.
I've always expected that you'd be able to get a Bronco with a V8 in it eventually, just not straight from Ford. If they can work out a similar deal here where a separate company shoves the V8 into it but you can buy it from the Ford dealer, all the better.
I know that article claims it "will adhere to OEM durability and safety requirements and be sold through Ford dealers will full five-year warranty protection" but I'm still skeptical it would pass US crash tests. This seems like a great workaround though. Curious what the price will be compared to the base.
I've always expected that you'd be able to get a Bronco with a V8 in it eventually, just not straight from Ford. If they can work out a similar deal here where a separate company shoves the V8 into it but you can buy it from the Ford dealer, all the better.
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Thats the way it was in the beginning........ I consider it straight from Ford, if completely sanctioned by them and sold through Ford dealers.
It would let Ford meet the demands on them and maintain good 'official' numbers, while still letting consumers get what they want. It's possible that the deal in AUS it has something to do with import taxes as well, considering that the Ranger sold in Australia is actually built in Malaysia or whatever -- maybe someone from down under can explain the import arrangements.
Cost was one of the big things that popped into my mind as well. Ford builds it with a 2L and then someone rips that out and plugs a 5L in before it gets sold. That can't be cheap. Would Ford try something similar with one of the many performance or Bronco restomod type companies in the US?
Not from AUS, but I know their car industry died a few years ago (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-26150990), so I doubt they have crazy import taxes on vehicles. That may be putting too much faith in politicians though.
Your other points make sense. In situations like this does the aftermarket company typically buy the vehicle with an engine installed, or do they have something setup with Ford where they buy the vehicle without an engine and put whatever they want in? Seems like a lot of screwing around (and expensive) to tear an engine out to put a different one in. I'm not sure what regulations there are (if any) regarding selling a vehicle without an engine though.
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If they can find a loophole in the regulation, they'll do it if the 'payoff' seems worth the effort.
Ford recently engaged in some "creative manufacturing" to avoid the stupid "chicken tax" on light trucks by bolting some extra seats into a 'passenger vehicle', then just removing the seat after it gets imported.
An engine swap would obviously be more elaborate and costly, but the price premium would be higher too.
it would typically need to be a completed vehicle if I recall correct, so engine and transmission included. But there could be some things in the contract were those are 'sold' back to Ford to use as parts/replacements for warranty work, since they could not be re-installed as new in a new car.
I’m Actually looking forward to it being a 2.3 or 2.7 eco boost because of the tuning potential that already exists and I’m sure will have Bronco application as well. Ecoboost mustangs gaining 100 HP with a few mods...sounds good to me.
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Same. I get that people are bummed that a V8 isn’t looking like something that will happen but the 2.3L and 2.7L are gnarly as hell. Give me a 2.7L, some catted down pipes and a tune? Looking at an easy 80hp gain to the tire right there. Plus I’m a fan of turbo whistle so like, that’s cool too.
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Then you'll need a FMIC to keep things cool and charge pipes, which adds more ponies, then by that point a CAI might actually be necessary and either a Diverter or Blow off valveSame. I get that people are bummed that a V8 isn’t looking like something that will happen but the 2.3L and 2.7L are gnarly as hell. Give me a 2.7L, some catted down pipes and a tune? Looking at an easy 80hp gain to the tire right there. Plus I’m a fan of turbo whistle so like, that’s cool too.
Then you add colder Spark Plugs, maybe complete the Catback, actual throttle body, upgrade the clutch and flywheel if it's manual, and before you know it, the Budget you had for lifting and whatnot went into going st3, but now you're more power than a good 70% of everything on the road and can easily embarrass most of them off the line as well.
Then comes the Big Turbos, the injectors and next thing you know, ba-bye project tuner car... Now to work on the brakes and suspension
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