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Yeah Im definitely on the low end of the economic spectrum of this forum, but ive never bought a car thinking of resale value.
Same. I drove a 4-banger Sonoma for 10 years. It had 140k on the odometer and was worth almost nothing when I traded it for my Tundra. I'd probably still have it, but I just didn't trust the longevity of that little 4 cylinder.

I've had the Tundra for 8.5 years now (its 9th birthday is December 29th). It's got over 135k on the clock, and while it hasn't been 100% problem free, I still trust that 4.6L V8 to continue chugging along. I have no plans to part with it.

It's going to be financially tough for me to afford a Bronco with no trade-in, but I've been saving my pennies, and I'm waiting for at least the second model year before I buy, so I have even more time to save.
 
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I had a brain baby today when taking about the Mach 1.... what if the trims more resemble the style of the mustang.

2 Door or 4 Door

Street 2.3
Street 2.3 Premium
FX4 2.3
FX4 2.3 Premium
Tremor 2.3
Tremor 2.3 Premium
Tremor 2.7
Tremor 2.7 Premium
Raptor 3.0 (2023 MY)
Warthog/Rock King 3.0 (2023 MY RUMOR)
 
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I had a brain baby today when taking about the Mach 1.... what if the trims more resemble the style of the mustang.

2 Door or 4 Door

Street 2.3
Street 2.3 Premium
FX4 2.3
FX4 2.3 Premium
Tremor 2.3
Tremor 2.3 Premium
Tremor 2.7
Tremor 2.7 Premium
Raptor 3.0 (2023 MY)
Warthog/Rock King 3.0 (2023 MY RUMOR)
This is all fine by me, but I'd need to know the difference between FX4 and Tremor (these would be the trims I actually care about), and the difference between Premium and non-Premium.

Without further data, I would assume that "Premium" is more form than function (plush leather seats, high end audio, more refined interior).

With FX4 vs. Tremor, though, both would be offroad upgrades, but to what effect?

Maybe FX4 gets the beefier IFS we've seen, Tremor gets SFA, and everybody gets chairs thrown at them when they argue over which package is better?

Or does FX4 just get lift and better tires, but the same chintzy IFS as the base model and Tremor gets the beefier IFS we've seen, nothing gets SFA (until maybe the Warthog/Rock King), and everybody still gets chairs thrown at them because they'll complain that there's no SFA option while others tell them that you don't need SFA to drive to the mall?
 
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This is all fine by me, but I'd need to know the difference between FX4 and Tremor (these would be the trims I actually care about), and the difference between Premium and non-Premium.

Without further data, I would assume that "Premium" is more form than function (plush leather seats, high end audio, more refined interior).

With FX4 vs. Tremor, though, both would be offroad upgrades, but to what effect?

Maybe FX4 gets the beefier IFS we've seen, Tremor gets SFA, and everybody gets chairs thrown at them when they argue over which package is better?

Or does FX4 just get lift and better tires, but the same chintzy IFS as the base model and Tremor gets the beefier IFS we've seen, nothing gets SFA (until maybe the Warthog/Rock King), and everybody still gets chairs thrown at them because they'll complain that there's no SFA option while others tell them that you don't need SFA to drive to the mall?
premium vs non is all “features” options
leather vs cloth, led vs non, 10” vs 8” screen etc

FX4 vs tremmor is big deference.
fx4 would be just slightly better tires and suspension vs normal package (like the ford ranger)
where the “tremmor” package is what leaked out a few weeks ago. Large tires and bypass shocks

once again just guesses and placeholders for names
 
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After watching the F150 debut. I 100% stand by guess that the BASE price of the Bronco will be
2 Door $35,000
4 Door $38,000
 

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Good news, you sir... are wrong. People are going to be quite happy.
By the time it's optioned the way I'd buy will likely end up at least $55k Even if they price below Wrangler which they probably won't will be that high for Comparable Sahara trim.
 

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So how does all of this change since Sync 4 is standard across the f150 line up? No more “tech” package to go up a step. Probably will be the same on the Bronco.
 
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So how does all of this change since Sync 4 is standard across the f150 line up? No more “tech” package to go up a step. Probably will be the same on the Bronco.
This all reaffirms my belief that the Bronco 2 door will start closer to 35k

unless ford offers a XL type package (I HIGHLY DOUBT, no XL Explorer)

sounds like standard features include
-Sync 4 with over the air updates and 4GLTE
- 8” touch screen
- at minimum Ford 360 up to 360+ (hands free will likely be optional)
-Auto On and off headlights
- smart phone connectivity

all those features on a wrangler would take you over $40,000.
 

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This all reaffirms my belief that the Bronco 2 door will start closer to 35k

unless ford offers a XL type package (I HIGHLY DOUBT, no XL Explorer)

sounds like standard features include
-Sync 4 with over the air updates and 4GLTE
- 8” touch screen
- at minimum Ford 360 up to 360+ (hands free will likely be optional)
-Auto On and off headlights
- smart phone connectivity

all those features on a wrangler would take you over $40,000.
yeah, and if word is willing to sell vehicles with all of these goodies for the reasonable price of $5k less than the competition then I’m sure they will get sales. Also, it looks like Fordis really stepping up the safety game. I’m sure that’s a pure reason on why the f-150s headlights are huge, and all the new tech installed with big brother monitoring. I feel the Bronco should trump the Jeep in tue safety aspect.
 
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yeah, and if word is willing to sell vehicles with all of these goodies for the reasonable price of $5k less than the competition then I’m sure they will get sales. Also, it looks like Fordis really stepping up the safety game. I’m sure that’s a pure reason on why the f-150s headlights are huge, and all the new tech installed with big brother monitoring. I feel the Bronco should trump the Jeep in tue safety aspect.
headlights is what IIHS is really hammering cars on. You could have a perfect 5 star crash rating but not get a safety pick because of headlights.
so they should be big and bright!
 

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This all reaffirms my belief that the Bronco 2 door will start closer to 35k

unless ford offers a XL type package (I HIGHLY DOUBT, no XL Explorer)

sounds like standard features include
-Sync 4 with over the air updates and 4GLTE
- 8” touch screen
- at minimum Ford 360 up to 360+ (hands free will likely be optional)
-Auto On and off headlights
- smart phone connectivity

all those features on a wrangler would take you over $40,000.
Again, the Bronco WILL NOT follow the same trim structure as any other Ford vehicle. And many of the things you just listed are becoming standard across all Ford vehicles and are relatively inexpensive to add to the vehicle. Economy of scale, my friend.
 

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