2021 Bronco's Bilstein suspension vs standard suspension pics

[North7]

I have nothing to add to this conversation but that 4 link setup with a panhard bar is just begging to be modded

Some jack wagon is gonna make a drill fixture and move that lower strut mount and turn that stock pan
hard into a adjustable one

Maybe mod the upper arms also to set pinion angle , good thing I have far to much sense to do anything like that

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[VoltageDrop]

I have nothing to add to this conversation but that 4 link setup with a panhard bar is just begging to be modded

Some jack wagon is gonna make a drill fixture and move that lower strut mount and turn that stock pan
hard into a adjustable one

Maybe mod the upper arms also to set pinion angle , good thing I have far to much sense to do anything like that

First and foremost, that lower shock mount needs some armor for that bilstein reservoir

 

[Raptor.Tremor.Bronco]

Waiting on them fox 3.0 live valves. Bilstien who

 

[Cased]

Here you go.

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Looks like companies will get after it quick

 

[airishfan]

So, I am not seeing 3” of suspension lift looking at the axle compared to the pan hard bar mount. The photo angles are different but the axle may be an inch lowered relative to the mount in the Bilstein shot, certainly not three though. Only thing I don’t know is if that Bilstein one is a Sasquatch with 315 MTs or a Badlands with 285 MTs.

Either way, the 3” stated yesterday has to include increase in tire radius based on these pics.

Only thing that gives the axle more lift is the tires .the sas gives the body more lift so you can get bigger tires , only thing that really gives a axle a lift is bigger tires

 

[SnowBronco]

More repost photos for those who have not seen them.

Is it just me or are both the front and back coilover mounts begging for some lift spacers? Not much. Maybe like an inch... But wouldn't this make giving these an additional extra bit of lift without screwing anything else up, and no need for other upgrades along with it very easy? Kinda like a quick spacer leveling kit?

 

[Dads_bronze_bronco]

Only thing that gives the axle more lift is the tires .the sas gives the body more lift so you can get bigger tires , only thing that really gives a axle a lift is bigger tires

My point was if there is an increase in height on the Bilstein shocks and springs the axle will move down relative to that mount (fixed to the frame) for the pan hard. It certainly isn’t 3” in lift in these pictures. So that 3” figure thrown around has to include tire and suspension lift.

I my line of thinking bigger tires are bigger tire, and a lift = suspension lift or body lift. The 3" "lift" figure thrown out by the Ford rep is misleading - probably intentionally.

 

[airishfan]

My point was if there is an increase in height on the Bilstein shocks and springs the axle will move down relative to that mount (fixed to the frame) for the pan hard. It certainly isn’t 3” in lift in these pictures. So that 3” figure thrown around has to include tire and suspension lift.

axle well be at the same height if the tires are same but the body well move up so the bumper should be higher

 

[Dads_bronze_bronco]

axle well be at the same height if the tires are same but the body well move up so the bumper should be higher

We may be saying the same thing in different ways:

4WP with lift—notice the panhard bar frame mount on the left is above the axle because the suspension is lifted:

Bilstein—notice the panhard bar frame mount on the left is level with or slightly above the axle—then notice for the Standard Suspension the panhard bar frame mount is about level or slightly below the axle:

Bilstein Suspension

Standard Suspension

Photo credit thebronconation

Conclusion: The Bilstein suspension doesn't give you 3" of lift unless you include increased tire height.

 

[airishfan]

We may be saying the same thing in different ways:

4WP with lift—notice the panhard bar frame mount on the left is above the axle because the suspension is lifted:


Bilstein—notice the panhard bar frame mount on the left is level with or slightly above the axle—then notice for the Standard Suspension the panhard bar frame mount is about level or slightly below the axle:



Conclusion: The Bilstein suspension doesn't give you 3" of lift unless you include increased tire height.

not sure how much a lift it gives you but I am sure they are adding in tires witch if you going from 32s to 35s well give you .750 . not sure what the stock tires on base is guessing 30s

 

[Hoofnmouth]

Looks like all the same hard points on the bottom, just different coilovers. I take that as a positive.

yup thats always been my issue should i just get a base and put a lift on it sas stuff will all be on the floor anyway. Its the lockers and gears that would be the tricky part.

 

[Burndog]

I'm thinking more about adding a 2-3" lift to my BL SAS. 2 might be enough. Just want to get the max out of the IFS

 

[nminus1]

Sorry but these Jimi Hendrix purple haze pics just suck. WTF am I supposed to see exactly?

 

[North7]

Sorry but these Jimi Hendrix purple haze pics just suck. WTF am I supposed to see exactly?

Well, what do you expect, they are from the Big Nothing.

 

[evoaire]

Compare that fender gap to this... This is the 33s...

and here’s a Badlands with SAS...

Are you sure? Tires looks the same.

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