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Hey Y’all,

Yesterday I was able to see the new LC250 in the flesh and test drive it etc.

I took some comparison pics for reference!

Biggest differences I noticed
  • Obviously the LC250 is much quieter
  • The suspension was more composed (also may be a factor of the longer wheelbase)
  • The front seat drivers area felt noticeably tighter and less roomy compared to the two door (I am 6’3 230lbs for reference)
  • The LC250 sits slightly lower
Biggest similarities
  • The powertrain was very similar in terms of acceleration and gear shifts
  • Visibility was similar
  • Front end is similar
General comments
  • The LC250 is best described as an extremely well executed SUV almost to the point of it being “boring” compared to the Bronco
  • From pictures the 1958 looks extremely basic inside and has cheaper looking materials; however it is extremely high quality and the build quality is more similar to lexus. Very very impressed
  • It is a well-executed barebones no frills overland platform/ family hauler
  • Think of a 4Runner that is roughly 25% larger and way higher quality
Will probably wait to get one used in a few years especially as a family hauler!

Ford Bronco 2024 Land Cruiser 250 (LC250) vs. Bronco Black Diamond 2DR  -- comparison photos & driving review IMG_5743


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Do the LC’s have a solid front axle?
 

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Maybe it’s an optical illusion, but the LC looks narrower than I expected. Too bad to read about the driver seat being tight, I’m bigger than you. I still think I’d want the Lexus version with the twin turbo motor from the Tundra and available 9K towing capacity.
 

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The new LC250 (global market LC Prado) is a huge disappointment to me (beginning with ground clearance and tires). It's only a win for Toyota as it allows them to widen their margins while increasing LC sales volume in NA.
The real LC, the successor to the FJ40 but withheld from NA, is the 70 Series (recently upgraded......and they did so conservatively thus without ruining it).
 

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Maybe it’s an optical illusion, but the LC looks narrower than I expected. Too bad to read about the driver seat being tight, I’m bigger than you. I still think I’d want the Lexus version with the twin turbo motor from the Tundra and available 9K towing capacity.
I’m with you on the GX, I almost went to the dealer to trade in my Badlands. It looks like an amazing all around platform, it feels like the 10-15% I’d be giving up in off-road performance is more than made up for in towing and comfort. Still giving it serious consideration.

something feels a little boujee driving around in a Lexus as opposed to an American made SUV, but still less elitist and more approachable than a German competitor.
 
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The new LC250 (global market LC Prado) is a huge disappointment to me (beginning with ground clearance and tires). It's only a win for Toyota as it allows them to widen their margins while increasing LC sales volume in NA.
The real LC, the successor to the FJ40 but withheld from NA, is the 70 Series (recently upgraded......and they did so conservatively thus without ruining it).
The real shame is Toyota didn't make a retro version on the FJ40, size it similar to the Bronco and give it a NA 6 engine, keep it utilitarian, and forego all the nanny crap from the Bronco. The modern-day Land Cruiser always seems to be competing to be the poor man's G-wagon.
 

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Saw one on the road and it looked narrowish without sitting next to a Bronco .... but I think the LC250 will look fantastic with bigger wheels and a moderate lift kit.

Also you have the Toyota/Lexus reliability vs the Ford/Lincoln.
 

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Problem with Toyota is their million and one suv models and sub models. They are cannibilizing their own market segment. But back to the topic, the LC could be a decent overlander but depending on what you want to utilize the vehicle for you can make the argument for a bronco, LC, Wrangler, etc. really comes down to what you are using it for :) for me, the bronco suits my needs and hobbies.
 

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We’re eying up new LCs and Gx550s, think we’re gonna wait until our Bronco is paid off and get one that was used after the fact. They look like a solid starting place for overlanding.



The real shame is Toyota didn't make a retro version on the FJ40, size it similar to the Bronco and give it a NA 6 engine, keep it utilitarian, and forego all the nanny crap from the Bronco. The modern-day Land Cruiser always seems to be competing to be the poor man's G-wagon.
Nobody would buy it.
 

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Nope...you'll need to look to the Ineos if you want a new solid front axle (and obviously Jeep).
My Wife has a Jeep and I hate the way it handles due to the SFA. Maybe an LC is in my future.
 

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We’re eying up new LCs and Gx550s, think we’re gonna wait until our Bronco is paid off and get one that was used after the fact. They look like a solid starting place for overlanding.





Nobody would buy it.
I disagree. There is a market for a simple rugged off-roader priced in the mid $20K’s equipped less than the Bronco Base was. Unfortunately I don’t know that they could get such a vehicle approved for sale in the US. I’d love something with minimal electronics and Toyota reliability.
 

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I have a ‘13 LC which I bought new that now has 180,000 miles and a 2022 2 door BL manual, also bought new, with 16,000 miles.
The LC is a tank. I’ve used it to haul 6-8 people on multiple occasions, driven it all over the country and done some light off-roading in it, despite its capability of doing challenging off-roading. It’s my daily driver and will hopefully continue as such for another 10 years. I paid $75K for it and never intended to thrash it on serious trails.
The Bronco is my plaything. It’s a lot of fun to drive and has been to Colorado and Utah on multiple occasions where it has been over multiple Jeep Badge of Honor trails. I paid $48K for it and have upgraded the steering rack and tie rods with the 3.0 unit. I can’t wait to travel and seriously off-road in it more.

The new LC, especially the lower priced 1958, seems like a more practical rig to use as a daily/family driver and a serious off-road option. A well broken-in 200 series makes a great overland rig, but would’ve been a little rich for my blood to have been used in such a way when it was new.
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