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I cant wait for the EPA because nobody knows when the hell that is happening. My car either will be built this year or delayed to 22

I have a gun to my head right now because of this "shop talk"

12mpg should only be possible off road up hill for a car that ford has built from the ground up
I think the numbers have to be posted on the window sticker. So when the first Broncos hit dealerships, you will see that information here around that time at a minimum. If that is insufficient, wait for MY22 or cancel and wait. You have options.
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I think the numbers have to be posted on the window sticker. So when the first Broncos hit dealerships, you will see that information here around that time at a minimum. If that is insufficient, wait for MY22 or cancel and wait. You have options.
my car is on its last legs i pretty much do not have options
 

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Typical ecoboost! It you drive it hard, mileage sucks. Drive it normal or for mileage and you'll he surprised. I still got low 20s on my lifted Expedition with 33s and no front air dam (3.5l). My 2.0 Bronco Sport is getting about 3 mpg better than the epa figures, yet a bunch of guys are complaining about the mileage. I'm sticking with the stock BL because I'm hoping and expecting 20-22 in normal conditions. Need that with the tiny 2dr tank!
 

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I don‘t think I would take any comments by the Bronco marking people at these events seriously regarding new product features . I attended 4 of these SE Michigan Preview events at 4 diff dealership. There are 4 teams of people conducting these events. Each team had their own Bronco, so I saw 4 different Broncos. I talked with the Ford Bronco people at each event. While they might know a fair amount about the Bronco, non of them said any of them were part of the “Bronco development team”. They all said they were hired by a marketing company that Ford typically uses for such events. They will be on this tour until mid June. Several said they just finished the F150 tour and just completed training on the Bonco. They added that they would be moving on to other cities in other states.
 

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I suspect 12MPG is not accurate and it will get better mileage than that...if not, maybe I'll trade up for the hybrid Bronco when it's available. Wouldn't it be awesome if the Hybrid used the same 3.0L and hybrid drivetrain from the Lincoln Aviator? Although I remember hearing that was possibility for the Warthog Hybrid, in which case they most likely wouldn't use the same engine in a regular Bronco. Either way, it's probably better to reserve judgement until we know more instead of getting worked up about this...we've heard plenty of other Ford employees give different numbers.
 

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12 MPG is completely believable.

I get 19 MPG even better in mix driving with my 3.5L twin turbo Eco but only if I stay out of the boost. Switch to sport and give her the spurs and that number will drop to 15 MPG quickly. The 3.5L can hustle the F150 or sip the fuel as needed.
 

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im on contract to have one of these built for around 50 thousand dollars so pardon me if i dont give a fuck about your feelings on my posts but i seriously dont.

Im in shock that ford would fuck up this badly. I was expecting not GREAT milage. Not "haha thats hilarious they think its year 2000" bad milage. They had years to figure this out. They knew from the start of the rolling test vehicles what milage to expect and did nothing.

im hoping OP is just a moron and this is all just a mistake or im going to have to cancel. I bought a 2 door with the shitty fuel tank so i would be spending more time at the gas station than on or off road.

Keep in mind that this applies to all armored trims and ALOT of people bought the badlands because of the locked in creature comforts.
The OP only relayed what was told to him so if someone was not accurate it would be said person not OP. As far as I know nobody here knows MPG for sure so we really won't know until we see it on the sticker.
 

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my car is on its last legs i pretty much do not have options
If you’re trolling, kudos for the commitment... but strange hill to die on.
Otherwise, let me put your unstable mind at ease, friend. You have so many options other than this $50k purpose-built offroader. I got you.
-used corolla
-AAA membership
-hiking boots

$10-15k and you’ll see plenty of cool outdoorsy places not to mention get great mpg and you can buy one today! Worried about snow? $500 for snow tires, and that corolla will get you through the worst of times (but you always have that AAA membership, just in case)

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inven...RE&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d295#
 

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my car is on its last legs i pretty much do not have options
You always have options. Whether or not you like those options can be a different story. Honestly, it doesn't seem like you are all that thrilled about the Bronco so maybe it's not for you. Nothing wrong with that just like there are lots of vehicles that aren't for me.
 

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my car is on its last legs i pretty much do not have options
Best thing to do, man, is step away for a few days. Seriously.
Things get heated, we are all passionate, and some are in more of a pickle than others on the whole needing to replace something ASAP situation.
I get it.
What I don't get is being a tool to others. It never ends well.
It's all conjecture and speculation.

In reality it can't be that bad based on current offerings with that setup.
Not with normal or reasonably normal driving style.
It's not going to get what your CRV does, so prepare yourself.
35's do suck some economy out of the sails, I know.
Just wait.
Once data is released, it is done.
Not some guy posting about what some other guy offhandedly said at a pony show.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
Plenty of hybrids available that aren't a Bronco for less $.

But at the end of the day, if you don't step back and cool off, you're gonna get ghosted on here, not what you want.
I'd rather see you post pic of your ride a few months down the road vs trying to remember who that guy was that one time going apeshit over MPG...
 

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So in other words its better to wait for the next gen lol
 

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@Ourbroncolife was reporting pretty decent MPGs for the vehicle type... I can't find their post quickly, but maybe they'll chime in.

::EDIT::

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...-touchscreen-in-2021-bronco.14071/post-514716

Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13
Omg thank you so much for linking me to this.

This eases literally my only worry. 19MPG with a 20.8 gallon tank will yield just around a 400 mile range of mixed driving. My Forester gets around 27 mixed with a 16.6 gallon tank. If this is all true I can't believe, with a 2.7L twin turbo with 310HP/400LB of torque, I am going to be getting just around the same range on a tank as my Forester.

I will be freaking ecstatic.
 

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He did say ‘If you drive like an idiot’. How many of us are idiots?
 

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***Photos to follow shortly***

On Saturday the GF and I arrived at Varsity Ford in Ann Arbor Michigan around 11:45 PM. Our appointment was for the noon timeslot so we were a little early. I was disappointed to find that the Bronco on display was the Rapid Red Outerbanks we have been seeing on the forums. I was really hoping for the Black Diamond so I could see the sasquatch and MGV or at least the First Edition to see the Cactus Grey color on the Bronco. Regardless... beggars can't be choosers.

The event started by them gathering us all into a group and they then gave a slight introduction about the Bronco and rattled off some generic statistics/features of the ride. I drowned all this out as it was nothing a common fan wouldn't already know.

First Impressions: While I was excited to see the Bronco in person I will admit I was rather surprised at how my adrenaline didn't spike. I think it mostly has to do with having seen this vehicle in countless videos/photos over the years that I pretty much know it like the back of my hand. Rapid Red is a great color. I'm not convinced I'd pay extra for it but it looks great with the black accents. If I wasn't so in love with Area 51 I'd probably consider it.

There was probably 20-30 people there at the time. I literally stationed myself by the driver's door so when they stopped talking I could jump right in. Mission accomplished. Apologies that I couldn't get photos a bit further away to get a better image of my legs. I literally had the phone up on my nose trying to get as much as I could. Maybe in a few weeks I'll have more time and have my GF take a photo from the second row looking down. (More on this later). Anyways, I think space/legroom in the front is perfectly acceptable. I didn't feel like I had to lean my legs up on the center console or never felt cramped. Sitting in the driver's seat was fun. As I stated earlier... my juices weren't really flowing upon arrival but once I sat down in the drivers seat... six to midnight. Even the Outerbanks with the smaller tires had a great ride height and the feel/view of the cabin is a delight. It felt like it would be a very fun vehicle to drive.

The overall quality of the vehicle seemed nice. I touched a lot of the materials and was satisfied. The front seats were comfy, the armrest and center console were well placed and padded that I felt I had a few comfortable driving positions. Nothing is worse than a car where you have to hold your arms up the entire time. The Bronco did not have that at all. I sat in the backseats for a bit and had a another gentlemen extend the front seat all the way back as a means to crush me in the back. He was laughing and said "I'd never need this much room up here" but regardless I wanted to see. My legs needed to point out a bit kind of like on an airplane but wasn't horrible. For a short trip 30 mins - 1 hour it is manageable. Anything longer than that would likely be miserable. Keep in mind I had the front seat as far back as it would go. Another item I made sure I checked out was the tailgate. After having owned a jeep I wanted to see how it was opening and closing it. The tailgate hinge and the way the cylinder locked it into place was a nice feature. I opened and closed it multiple times... it works well.

The Ford reps that were there weren't "Bronco Nation" reps but there were familiar with the forums (Both this one and TheBroncoNation). I vetted them and asked them what they liked and didn't like. I eventually found one guy who knew more than the others... obviously I needed to hit this guy with the kitchen sink at this point... :LOL:

Question 1: "I am thinking of going Sasquatch on my Badlands but my concern is ride quality and MPG"

Answer: I love the sasquatch package. I wouldn't think twice about it. It vibrates a bit when you get to high speeds because of the tires but there is absolutely no wandering on the highway like there is with a Jeep. You aren't fighting it. I would put it inline between driving an F150 and an explorer on the highway. Also, as far as MPG goes I had about 16-17 recently but that was with highway driving as well. If you just did around town I wouldn't be surprised if it's around 12.

Question 2: What model is your favorite and what are you going with?

Answer: Oh, I'm waiting for Ford to come out with a few more engine options...

Question 2A: Oh so you're talking about the Warthog? I know you cant talk about that but a little birdie told me we could see it coming next year... if so dont move a muscle and don't blink.

Answer: The gentlemen was totally still and didn't blink.

Question 3: I know Ford has confirmed a green for MY22. Can you confirm if this color is currently offered on another Ford vehicle.

Answer: No the color is not currently offered on another Ford Vehicle

Question 3A/Statement 3A: I really hope Ford comes out with something along the lines of an army green.

Answer: The guy smiled but he wouldn't allude to anything else.

Question 4: If the Heritage Edition is very similar to the Cactus Grey build we saw during premier night then don't move a muscle.

Answer: The guy didn't move.

Question 5: If you could pick between the Raptor R or the "Warthog" which would you choose?

Answer: I'd hypothetically pick the Raptor varient of the Bronco... if there were such a thing ;)


Additional Thoughts:

- Assuming the information above is correct, we can cross Guard Green off the list of possible green colors for the Bronco. "Greaaaattt succcessss" - Borat Voice
- There was a Cactus Grey Bronco Sport. It is a nice color and definitely different in person.
- The soft top material seemed nice. They had it open the entire time and a door and the windows stored in the back.
- The build quality of the vehicle felt solid. Opening and closing the doors felt sturdy. I never felt like anything was loose and the door just felt like it would hold. I can't say the same about the wrangler doors. People who are expecting a Rolls Royce interior will be disappointed. This thing was built with a purpose to take a beating and last. In my opinion Ford has delivered on that end in spades..
- I asked if there was any additional insulation between the rubber flooring and the body. The crew there wasn't sure but they emailed their engineers the question and took down my email address. If I get a response I will let you guys know.
- It hasn't been made public yet but the crew is making their way to Cleveland and Buffalo in the coming weeks. I got one of the gentlemen's numbers and he told me to text him in early April. At this point he should have the dates pinned down. He said it would be the First Edition Cactus Grey at those dealerships. I live in Cleveland so I plan on seeing them again. This time I'll at least get to see a Sasquatch. I'll also try and grab a better photo of my legs in the front seat. This time I'll have the GF take the photo looking down from the backseat.
- When I told the gentlemen my build and that I had my order in two hours after the premier he said I'd be looking at late Summer (August) due to sasquatch. Oof... I was really hoping that since I was somewhat early I'd maybe still get it in July but who knows...
- The crew was kind enough to turn on the vehicle and crank the sound system for me. It was maybe 25% but it sounded pretty good. At the next event I'm going to ask to pick a song and really see how much I can make the sub bump. Their personal impressions were that the B&O sounded much better than stock... take that with a grain of salt obviously because they work for Ford.
- I'm not sure what my GF would've said if we saw a standard 33" Badland's in person but the second we walked up onto the Outerbanks she said " I want the bigger tires" Which actually surprised me because she was the one pushing the smaller wheels the entire time. Good news for her was I had actually changed the build a week ago to sasquatch and was just going to have her show up at the dealership and be surprised lol.
- I felt the material in the wheelwells and then felt the sound insulation underneath the hood. It felt the same. Obviously the roof insulation has some padding underneath it but whatever it is on the outside that they are using for sound insulation, it was or at least felt the same as what is inside the wheelwells.


Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13


Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13

Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13
Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13
Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13
Ford Bronco 3.20 Varsity Ford Dealer Event - Photos, Questions and First Impressions Screen Shot 2021-03-22 at 12.29.13
How tall are you? Just trying to gage your explanation of the back seat with the front seat all the way back.
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