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About 37 1/2 but its also 13.5 wide vs my old build at 12.5 wide. You can get 37x12.5 and that width makes a huge difference. Did you look at my 37x12.5 build thats sounds like it would be more helpful this build will 100% require JKS max tire clearance kit. Just to even think about trying it. But it took way more effort than just even that.
I haven't seen your other build, I'll check it out. These are only 11.5 which should help even more.
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I haven't seen your other build, I'll check it out. These are only 11.5 which should help even more.
I bet 37 x 11.5's will look awesome under the Bronco.
 
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See post 56 and 59. Post 59 is same tires just lifted now. So I would say 1in lift that sounds about right being I added 1in rear and 1 3/8in front. With that being said it’s also fair to say the 38s are giving me 2in.
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I know I have been all about fitting the 38s but this is also my build thread so Wall Mound door holder.

I added these about 2 months ago but wasn't happy with the lengths of the pins I reached out to the guy sent him pics and showed him they would be way better if they were 3/16s longer. He agreed and sent me new pins said he would send out new pins to the old buyers and going forward they would be longer.

First off they work great. Second that was great customer service. Plus he wasn't the guy to just blow me off he looked agreed and made them better. Yes they are stupid high but in my case I will have a set of doors on them year round being my tube doors will go on them in the winter.

((((The doors are long and take up a huge area so I would double check that your wall is big enough))))

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1191910230/wall-mount-for-ford-bronco-doors-2021-to

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I was asked today how the 38s ride. I know its hard to believe but it rides great like if you told me it had 31s on it I would believe you.
 
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Putting 38s on (What is needed) On a budget ($2500 or $3000 with recommended)!!!
JKS Max tire Kit $209
https://zoneoffroad.com/products/fo...e-kit-2021-ford-bronco?variant=39994503069784

1in spacers $324
https://www.stage3motorsports.com/2...RghXaAHd9ik9FN5rNCBa9tK7QCAfRHChoCofUQAvD_BwE

Zone 2in lift $176
https://zoneoffroad.com/products/2-...n-spacer-lift-badlands?variant=39994500513880

Few Zip-ties $1 lol

Tires $1600-2800 (Need to clear this up you want need spacers if you have this offset) (Spacers are needed with stock Sasquatch wheels)
Wheels needed if no spacer -5 to 0 offset. I'm at -5 FYI

Alignment $120


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https://zoneoffroad.com/products/br...tie-rod-end-sleeve-kit?variant=40001628995672

Bronco Bushing $350
https://broncbustertx.com/products/product-name

And a new rear bumper LOL
 
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((((((Anyone who read I had 3/4in spacers I was wrong it was 1in))))))) Sorry and I updated all post above.
 

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Putting 38s on (What is needed) On a budget ($2500 or $3000 with recommended)!!!
JKS Max tire Kit $209
https://zoneoffroad.com/products/fo...e-kit-2021-ford-bronco?variant=39994503069784

1in spacers $324
https://www.stage3motorsports.com/2...RghXaAHd9ik9FN5rNCBa9tK7QCAfRHChoCofUQAvD_BwE

Zone 2in lift $176
https://zoneoffroad.com/products/2-...n-spacer-lift-badlands?variant=39994500513880

Few Zip-ties $1 lol

Tires $1600-2800
Wheels needed if no spacer -5 to 0 offset. I'm at -5 FYI

Alignment $120


Recommend
JKS steering sleeves or something like them. $55
https://zoneoffroad.com/products/br...tie-rod-end-sleeve-kit?variant=40001628995672

Bronco Bushing $350
https://broncbustertx.com/products/product-name

And a new bumper LOL
OK. My unit is a Badlands (non-Sas). Last week, I installed the Zone 2-1 kit, without the Perch spacer, leaving me the smaller rake (that I like) of about 1/2". While I was in there doing stuff, I also installed the Bronc Bushing, new UCA, and RPG Tie Rod kit.

Not that it matters to this specific question, but my wheels are RTR... 9 x 18, with "0" offset... and they are a perfect fit.

Alignment: I don't have a clue! I went to a shop, of Friday, and they said that they couldn't guess what alignment spec to use!!!

So, I'm guessing that my alignment requirement would be almost identical to yours... can you please post the spec that your shop used, as well as any comments?

Thank You
 
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OK. My unit is a Badlands (non-Sas). Last week, I installed the Zone 2-1 kit, without the Perch spacer, leaving me the smaller rake (that I like) of about 1/2". While I was in there doing stuff, I also installed the Bronc Bushing, new UCA, and RPG Tie Rod kit.

Not that it matters to this specific question, but my wheels are RTR... 9 x 18, with "0" offset... and they are a perfect fit.

Alignment: I don't have a clue! I went to a shop, of Friday, and they said that they couldn't guess what alignment spec to use!!!

So, I'm guessing that my alignment requirement would be almost identical to yours... can you please post the spec that your shop used, as well as any comments?

Thank You
Post #50 is all I have. But you do have a aftermarket UCA that changes everything when it comes to what fits. I’m not sure I understand why they can’t align your ride unless that are running out of adjustment?

Also what size tires are you running.
 

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I have a 3" lift and 37s on mine and here's what I brought to the shop. Note, a lot of shops do not have alignment specs for new Broncos (yet?). I have a Badlands + Sasquatch which is why certain specs are highlighted.

Ford Bronco 38x13.5r17 Patagonia M/T Sasquatch Badlands 2in Lift/Build Thread Round 2 alignment specs


OK. My unit is a Badlands (non-Sas). Last week, I installed the Zone 2-1 kit, without the Perch spacer, leaving me the smaller rake (that I like) of about 1/2". While I was in there doing stuff, I also installed the Bronc Bushing, new UCA, and RPG Tie Rod kit.

Not that it matters to this specific question, but my wheels are RTR... 9 x 18, with "0" offset... and they are a perfect fit.

Alignment: I don't have a clue! I went to a shop, of Friday, and they said that they couldn't guess what alignment spec to use!!!

So, I'm guessing that my alignment requirement would be almost identical to yours... can you please post the spec that your shop used, as well as any comments?

Thank You
 

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Post #50 is all I have. But you do have a aftermarket UCA that changes everything when it comes to what fits. I’m not sure I understand why they can’t align your ride unless that are running out of adjustment?

Also what size tires are you running.
Thank you. Yokohama x-AT 35 x 12.5 x 18.
 

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I have a 3" lift and 37s on mine and here's what I brought to the shop. Note, a lot of shops do not have alignment specs for new Broncos (yet?). I have a Badlands + Sasquatch which is why certain specs are highlighted.

Ford Bronco 38x13.5r17 Patagonia M/T Sasquatch Badlands 2in Lift/Build Thread Round 2 alignment specs
Thank you. I also just found this prior chart. I guess I'm still not smart enough to know alignment stuff, but wouldn't the reduction of a 1" rake... to a 1/2" rake also make a small difference (moving a bit of weight to the rear) or isn't that enough to care about?
 
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Thank you. I also just found this prior chart. I guess I'm still not smart enough to know alignment stuff, but wouldn't the reduction of a 1" rake... to a 1/2" rake also make a small difference (moving a bit of weight to the rear) or isn't that enough to care about?
Man I did mine at the dealership so they had the specs I see what you were asking now.
 

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If you installed a lift that reduced the rake, an alignment would be more needed because you changed the geometry of the front end (riding at a different spot in suspension travel) rather than a front height vs rear height.

Thank you. I also just found this prior chart. I guess I'm still not smart enough to know alignment stuff, but wouldn't the reduction of a 1" rake... to a 1/2" rake also make a small difference (moving a bit of weight to the rear) or isn't that enough to care about?
 
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If you installed a lift that reduced the rake, an alignment would be more needed because you changed the geometry of the front end (riding at a different spot in suspension travel) rather than a front height vs rear height.
Zone 2in Sasquatch level lift is 2in front 1in rear. Front has a spacer that gives you 1 3/8 and a spring perch that gives you 5/8in and 1in rear. So we both skipped the spring perch this should have kept the rack closer to stock versus leveling it. You maybe just like ok but if you are looking at doing a lift I thought I would explain in-case this maybe a direction you want to go.
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