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UPDATE and edited - Looks like we gain another solid inch over the 51.8” benchmark. See photos below. The gap is ever so slightly bigger between the 4 door seat and b pillar. The B pillar on the 4 door must be a little bit bowed.

We have confirmed the 2 door b pillars are in fact 51.8” apart per the drawing and ford dimensions.

Nonetheless putting the exact inch aside, those bigger guys that have raised concerns with the 4 door have to do with the fact that your shoulders are sitting in between the pillars.
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So there has been some feedback that the 4 door feels snug. Some discussions around the protruding B pillars. I did some snooping and thought I’d share.

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Granted this is a 2 door where the B pillars aren’t problematic since they’re further back. But what do you see here? There’s almost no space between the b pillar and seat is the obvious. What else do you see? The B pillar is align with the rear shoulder dimension. We have that number from Ford! It’s 51.8”. Fords 4 door shoulder room from door panel to door panel is 57.1” but B pillar to B pillar looks to be 51.8”.

And unfortunately the B pillars on the 4 door overlap your shoulders since the b pillars are pretty forward facing. Ie the side of you upper body rests against the b pillar if you’re say 6 ft tall and don’t have the seat forward.

Bere’s my outback

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Similar at 52”. But Unfortunately the bronco doesn’t have these cut outs, and the seats are much further back in relation to the b pillar. So I put my seat all the way back in the tracks so I was sitting against the b pillar like I would be in a bronco. Then put a book up against the cut out to mimic what it would feel like.

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I’m 6’-0” 210 with a average shoulders. With my elbow on the arm rest holding the wheel, my tricep was within 0.5” of hitting that imaginary bronco b pillar. So that’s what some of the bigger guys are talking about with the b pillars.

hope this helps. If you’re concerned with width I would do the same thing in your current vehicle by putting your seat back to overlap the b pillar and see what 51.8” feels like.

for reference here are some photos of the 4 door. Note the b pillar curves up at the top which doesn’t help. It will clear your shoulders but something to consider.

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And here’s the seat all the way back in it’s track so you get a sense of the positioning of the bpillar

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Great investigation.

These seats seem to be pushed allllll the way back. Otherwise the seatbelt sling would be sitting next to your head.

I'm relatively short for a man (5'8"), so I can't speak for you gigantor people, but I suspect it will be a minority of people pushing the seat that far back during normal driving.

We need to compare some stills from the ride-alongs to see where the driver's are falling in term of the B Pillar. Their shoulders may be forward of it while in a normal driving position.
 
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@ZackDanger i was thinking the same. I already went ahead and added another photo above with the seat all the way back. After viewing a few photos it seems like anyone 6-0" will probably have some overlap with the B pillar on the 4 door...this is not really a problem with the 2 door.... It seems like for the 4 door bronco, the B pillars are at least a few inches forward in relation to the seat compared to most trucks. Honestly I think you would need to be under like 5-6” for your shoulders to not overlap a portion of the b pillar. Look at the distance from the steering wheel to the b pillar in the photos with the errr larger gentleman
 

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So is the 2 door different with the longer doors? I haven't studied this that closely.
 
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So is the 2 door different with the longer doors? I haven't studied this that closely.
Yes, this isnt really a problem on the 2 door since the B pillars are further back and dont overlap with the seat. Unless you had your seat ALL the way back, then maybe it could somewhat come into play.
 

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I noticed this too when sitting in the driver seat 4dr at my show-n-tell. I'm 6'0" and with seat all the way back it felt a little snug at the shoulders. Fortunately for me I needed to move the seat up to 'drive' safely/comfortably. My interest at the time was to get a sense of how much knee room existed behind the driver with the seat in its best location for me. I did notice a less snug feel at the shoulders as I moved the seat forward a few notches.
 
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Interesting.....I am going to measure my 2 door Jeep just to compare
you should also put your seat further back so you overlap the B Pillar to see how it feels.....although, if you're replacing your 2 door jeep with a 2 door bronco, this isnt really an issue on the 2 door broncos, only the 4 door.
 

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Hmm. I have very broad shoulders. This may be an issue since I’m 6’1”. This is going to make seeing the Bronco a must before I finalize everything. I don’t like feeling squished.

Thanks for the post and the pics!
 

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I am 5' 11" and tend to move my seat so that my wrist is on top of the steering wheel. That is as far back as I go, well playing with the steering wheel height and depth so both the wife and I have clearance and the wheel is not in our lap or a old schoolbus/60's big rig.

I have noticed this keeps me out of b pillars and I then adjust my seat for best visibility and comfort.
 

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I’m not sure this is as much a matter of how tall you are as it’s how wide you are being tall. A large framed person would probably make most mid-size options interesting. If you’re tall and lean, it might not be an issue at all.
 
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I’m not sure this is as much a matter of how tall you are as it’s how wide you are being tall. A large frame would probably make most mid-size options interesting. If you’re tall and lean, it might not be an issue at all.
I think it's all going to depend on leg and arm length... which will impact how far away from the steering wheel you want to sit.

Looking at the ride-along videos, it looks like the typical placement for the driver puts the headrest right at the front edge of the B-pillar... putting shoulders in the same general area.

No idea how tall these people are, though.

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