I don't think sitting in the showroom is a very good test. Even in mild off-road driving you encounter many situations where the vehicle tilts with the terrain - which will often bounce you against the 4-door pillar.For a wide shouldered guy, this is worrisome.
Oh, I know. I was just saying that a tall slender Clint Eastwood type, might not have an issue, even if they were sitting with their shoulders next to the B-pillar.I think it's all going to depend on leg and arm length... which will impact how far away from the steering wheel you want to sit.
Looking at the ride-along videos, it looks like the typical placement for the driver puts the headrest right at the front edge of the B-pillar... putting shoulders in front of the B-pillar.
No idea how tall these people are, though?
I think the point of them calling out the petite women is that historically the only people that they *have* included were the larger men.... not that they took this as an opportunity to only include petite women.I don't think sitting in the showroom is a very good test. Even in mild off-road driving you encounter many situations where the vehicle tilts with the terrain - which will often bounce you against the 4-door pillar.
I recall just after the reveal a Ford exec talking about how extensively they tested the design with petite women...they should have included more Large men.
This guy was 6’5, 350lbs, I saw this thread. That’s going to be the outlier in this equation. I’m 6’2, 275 and while I’m a bit worried, I’ll just move the seat forward a bit. I don’t like my seat back reclined that far so hopefully it will be fine. I still need to sit in one though!So there have been some feedback that the 4 door feels snug. Some discussions around the protruding B pillars. So I did some snooping and thought I’d share.
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Granted this is a 2 door where the B pillars aren’t problematic since they’re further back. But what do you see here? There’s almost no space between the b pillar and seat is the obvious. What else do you see? The B pillar is align with the rear shoulder dimension. We have that number from Ford! It’s 51.8”. Fords 4 door shoulder room from door panel to door panel is 57.1” but B pillar to B pillar looks to be 51.8”.
And unfortunately the B pillars on the 4 door overlap your shoulders since the b pillars are pretty forward facing. Ie the side of you upper body rests against the b pillar if you’re say 6 ft tall and don’t have the seat forward.
here’s my outback
Similar at 52”. But Unfortunately the bronco doesn’t have these cut outs, and the seats are much further back in relation to the b pillar. So I put my seat all the way back in the tracks so I was sitting against the b pillar like I would be in a bronco. Then put a book up against the cut out to mimic what it would feel like.
I’m 6’-0” 210 with a average shoulders. With my elbow on the arm rest holding the wheel, my tricep was within 0.5” of hitting that imaginary bronco b pillar. So that’s what some of the bigger guys are talking about with the b pillars.
hope this helps. If you’re concerned with width I would do the same thing in your current vehicle by putting your seat back to overlap the b pillar and see what 51.8” feels like.
for reference here are some photos of the 4 door. Note the b pillar curves up at the top which doesn’t help. It will clear your shoulders but something to consider.
And here’s the seat all the way back in it’s track so you get a sense of the positioning of the bpillar
If you’re not already signed up. Here’s your chance.I’m a broad shouldered guy. Hoping I can sit in one before I truly have to make up my mind. My order is in, but I need to sit in one. I usually do not have the seat all the way back because I don’t like my legs stretched straight when I drive. Either way, I’ll probably still buy it and then sell it if I don’t fit. Lol
None of them are open. I’ve tried for days. I am confused by the 51.8” considering this from Ford website.If you’re not already signed up. Here’s your chance.
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Thanks! Don’t get me wrong, I’d have to be really uncomfortable to be upset. The B pillar in my Taurus Limited is a bit close too, so I’ve probably become used to it.Just updated my post. Looks like MN is still waiting for dates. The Southern dates for mid May popped up late last week. Maybe yours will be this week.
This.I’m not sure this is as much a matter of how tall you are as it’s how wide you are being tall. A large framed person would probably make most mid-size options interesting. If you’re tall and lean, it might not be an issue at all.