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4 door bronco has b pillars that are 1. inline with the seats (unlike most trucks) and 2. are blocky to support the roof structure and dont have elbow cut-outs (unlike most trucks).
Turns out the 2-door isn't 'form over function'; its 'form AND function'.





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I'm 5'10", 265, pretty broad shouldered.
Last week at the KMF event I adjusted the seat in the OBX so my wrists were on top. I didn't notice the B-Pillar being an issue, but also felt like the interior was about the same size as my Mazda 6 sedan - although the back seat was definitely a bit more cramped with slightly less legroom. The interior dimensions just aren't that big.
Honestly, the Bronco is just barely large enough for me and is more compact than I expected.
 
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For what it's worth, the 51.8" rear 2 dr shoulder room per ford (which looks to line up with the B Pillar, presumably carried over to the 4 door b pillar), is confirmed here at 52" (wall to wall)

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if this uniquely affects 4 door, i sympathize with those this issue impacts. As a 2 door reservation holder (defer to my22 for mansquatch), it has been an uphill battle justifying to my family and friends getting the 2 door. This is more ammo for the cause. Bookmarked this sub along with the pictures so i can whip those out when they tell me putting my kid in the backseat is going to be a nightmare. 10 seconds of pain better than a constant uncomfortable driving experience. (6' 260lbs with wide shoulders)
 

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None of them are open. I’ve tried for days. I am confused by the 51.8” considering this from Ford website.

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So I just measure where I fall in my 2014 Taurus Limited. B pillar to b pillar for me where my shoulder sits is right below the seatbelt loop. That measures just under 50”, so basically I have over an inch more room, give or take. Time will tell when I get to one of the bronco events when they open in my area. As I sit here and sweat nervously about what I’ve wait for for 5 years since they announced it was coming back.
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Great investigation.

These seats seem to be pushed allllll the way back. Otherwise the seatbelt sling would be sitting next to your head.

I'm relatively short for a man (5'8"), so I can't speak for you gigantor people, but I suspect it will be a minority of people pushing the seat that far back during normal driving.

We need to compare some stills from the ride-alongs to see where the driver's are falling in term of the B Pillar. Their shoulders may be forward of it while in a normal driving position.
Speak for yourself, I'm 5'8" and am a giant in my circles..lol
 

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Interesting - same thing in a JKU FWIW, and the measurement is 52”. Never really noticed unless getting thrown side to side on the trail.
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I would imagine, unlike the Bronco, since a two door Jeep uses the same door, it would have the same B pillar placement as well. So there is that advantage for a two door Bronco.
 

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More data points from my Jeep JK

B pillar to B pillar on my JK is 52”. Door card to door card pushes that out to 56”

My seat back is in near in line with the B pillar, but when I sit down my shoulder actually falls just ahead of the B pillar.

So that’s all to say:

I have no idea what the Bronco is going to be like, especially for people bigger than me.

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So as I've been saying for months, if you want to know the interior size of a Bronco go sit in a Wrangler lol. The Bronco has more headroom and more comfortable seats, but it feels like a Wrangler space wise. My experience is 4 door only.
 
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Has anyone found pics that imply that the 4 door B pillar for some reason could be narrower than the 2 door B pillar? All the shots I am seeing is that you could just fit a finger between the front seats and B pillar (whether that's a 2 door or 4 door).

update here we go. Gap goes from a credit card to an iPhone. Maybe at best the 4 door has a combined 0.75” extra clearance over a 2 door b pillar. Making 51.8” become 52.5”.
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The 2-door mockup...
I searched for photos that had the seat pushed back for reference between the two for those that keep asking about the 2-door. This does not seem to be an issue for the 2-door at all.

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the 4-door seat-to-B pillar relationship...
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This does not seem to be an issue for the 2-door at all.
agree....I don't think the most significant issue is #inches between pillars...rather it seems to be (at least in the pics above) that a seated person in the 2-door will be just AHEAD of the pillar - and a seated person in the 4-door will be right abreast of it.

pic courtesy of RedHalo7, posted today

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UPDATE and edited - Looks like we gain another solid inch over the 51.8” benchmark. See photos below. The gap is ever so slightly bigger between the 4 door seat and b pillar. The B pillar on the 4 door must be a little bit bowed.

We have confirmed the 2 door b pillars are in fact 51.8” apart per the drawing and ford dimensions.

Nonetheless putting the exact inch aside, those bigger guys that have raised concerns with the 4 door have to do with the fact that your shoulders are sitting in between the pillars.
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So there has been some feedback that the 4 door feels snug. Some discussions around the protruding B pillars. I did some snooping and thought I’d share.

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Granted this is a 2 door where the B pillars aren’t problematic since they’re further back. But what do you see here? There’s almost no space between the b pillar and seat is the obvious. What else do you see? The B pillar is align with the rear shoulder dimension. We have that number from Ford! It’s 51.8”. Fords 4 door shoulder room from door panel to door panel is 57.1” but B pillar to B pillar looks to be 51.8”.

And unfortunately the B pillars on the 4 door overlap your shoulders since the b pillars are pretty forward facing. Ie the side of you upper body rests against the b pillar if you’re say 6 ft tall and don’t have the seat forward.

Bere’s my outback

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Similar at 52”. But Unfortunately the bronco doesn’t have these cut outs, and the seats are much further back in relation to the b pillar. So I put my seat all the way back in the tracks so I was sitting against the b pillar like I would be in a bronco. Then put a book up against the cut out to mimic what it would feel like.

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I’m 6’-0” 210 with a average shoulders. With my elbow on the arm rest holding the wheel, my tricep was within 0.5” of hitting that imaginary bronco b pillar. So that’s what some of the bigger guys are talking about with the b pillars.

hope this helps. If you’re concerned with width I would do the same thing in your current vehicle by putting your seat back to overlap the b pillar and see what 51.8” feels like.

for reference here are some photos of the 4 door. Note the b pillar curves up at the top which doesn’t help. It will clear your shoulders but something to consider.

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And here’s the seat all the way back in it’s track so you get a sense of the positioning of the bpillar

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I'm measuring my JK B pillar to B pillar: 52.5 inches at the widest point about 5 inches below the top of the backrest. Surprising that it would be wider.
 

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I'm 5'10", 265, pretty broad shouldered.
Last week at the KMF event I adjusted the seat in the OBX so my wrists were on top. I didn't notice the B-Pillar being an issue, but also felt like the interior was about the same size as my Mazda 6 sedan - although the back seat was definitely a bit more cramped with slightly less legroom. The interior dimensions just aren't that big.
Honestly, the Bronco is just barely large enough for me and is more compact than I expected.
I'm curious if you've sat in a wrangler and if so, did you have similar thoughts? I'm 6'2, 230 and also fairly broad shouldered. the Jeep is a little tight, but I like it. It seems right to me.
 

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