7/14 6:45 Am time stamp. Told Yesterday I am bumped to 2022

[ferbm]

Ha- My guess is it'd be $150-$200 per day. I've used Turo twice and had poor experiences. Both were several years ago but one instance had the car's battery dying mid-intersection and the other had expired plates which caused me to get pulled over on my way to the airport. Ever since then I swore I'd never use Turo again b/c there's no guarantee how often the cars are used and if they're maintained or not.

Dude! Sorry your experiences were bad! I use Turo all the time to rent Jeeps while on vacation. I’ve done this at least 6 times and never been disappointed. California, Utah, Florida, Arizona... It can sometime be a little more hassle than the rental car place, but to get exactly what you want, I’ve been impressed!

This is the Florida Keys two weeks ago....

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[Bronco2021RV]

Sorry to hear this; my resevation is a couple hours later than your but i'm at Chapman and it looks like i'll get a 2021 unless there are commodity issues (which as a wildtrax order, seems likely) but I am holding onto my FJ so its not much of a concern for me.

For what its worth, Chapman is offering a great lease deal on a few different wranglers with a guaranteed buyback for up to 15 months for those that need a vehicle while they wait for their bronco.

This was a very nice thing to post !

 

[bronc'o]

So I am not very happy today. Spoke with my dealer to see where things stand. He told me last week I was 26 out of 70 orders and he was getting about a 30-35% allocation. Has been telling me in past correspondance I was just inside the 2021 Allotment. Well yesterday he informed me that due to the fact that he has 7 FEs I am now on the outside of the 2021 allotment window. He is only getting 16 non FEs and I am 20. SO unless 4 others are bumped for some commodity reason (which I am sure would effect me too), I am NOT get a 2021.

I am honestly so frustrated and annoyed right now. I ordered within 11 hours of the orders opening and will somehow not receive a vehicle. I also sold my truck a couple weeks ago as I got a VERy good offer from Vroom and figured I should bank that money and payments for the next few months figuring I would have my Bronco by end of summer and my company is work from home until at least end of August. Now I dont know what I am going to do. I dont think we can deal with a single vehicle he the next year. Getting through 3-4 months we could make it work. 9+ months not sure we can.

This allotment formula is BS. There are going to be a LOT of people with times well past mine that will be getting their Broncos this summer. I am so ready to say eff this and just look for something else. I was not expecting one in the first batch but honestly thought I would see one mid sept at the latest. I had thought about moving my order to one of the big dealers, but thought my odds would be worse there with so many orders. But looking at the Chapman Ford I would have been like 65 out of a couple hundred orders and looks like well within their window. I stayed with this dealer as he gave me the best price in the state and had been on top of things with regards to my order and some changes. Now due to low allotment I am out of luck.

Sorry had to vent, and figured some of you will probably be feeling the same way in the next couple weeks as everyone finds out where they stand.

I spoke with Ford this morning. Was informed that with a 7/14 timestamp on my Wildtrak order... as long as it includes a MIC top, I should expect delivery by late summer '21. Only painted mods, regardless of timestamp, will be MY22. Not sure what your dealer is talking about... I would double check with Ford though.

 

[dwfern]

I am actually in opposite situation to the OP, I am looking to get bumped to '22 for the reasons you state. I am curious what options we think will be coming in '22. One thing I am hoping for is tops painted to match body color.

Biggest options for 2022 I see are white roof, body matching painted roof, and for some... the green option. Mechanical stuff I don't expect much difference.

 

[LSBronco13]

This is incorrect as I am reading it. A VIN will be assigned when the vehicle is scheduled to be built. Not before then. Eventually everyone will get a VIN, but the majority wont' be in April or May.
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I stated those who reserved where Ford stated a cut off date for 2021 productions and placed an order with a dealer summary document will be receiving a VIN number along with their order number to track their production process. That is what Ford told me. Not the dealers notes.

 

[LSBronco13]

Okay, but like, what's your source for this?

Typically Ford will "preview" who is slated for production a few weeks out, and note any commodity shortages. Then, if they have the parts the build will be "scheduled" and a VIN will be assigned a week or two before actual production. This is because you conceivably don't want to assign a VIN for a vehicle that you can't build, or may never build (what if commodity restraints hit and that build gets pushed to a new MY?)

What Ford has stated (in writing) that in May they will communicate "delivery window estimates" to the dealers/customers, which will give you a general idea when Ford expects to "schedule" your build.

Along with that Ford has also stated (in writing) that based on this delivery window estimate, customers will be able to modify their orders... all the way up until the build is "scheduled."

So again, where has anyone said we'd all be getting VINs? I'm happy to be shown so I can make sure I'm communicating correct information... but that's contrary what Ford has said.

There are no commodities restraints other than a black painted roof. They are ahead of schedule and those with their four digits Order number that was created by the dealer when you ordered will be getting the VIN number for those who reserved within the 2021 Ford time frame.

 

[marjen]

I spoke with Ford this morning. Was informed that with a 7/14 timestamp on my Wildtrak order... as long as it includes a MIC top, I should expect delivery by late summer '21. Only painted mods, regardless of timestamp, will be MY22. Not sure what your dealer is talking about... I would double check with Ford though.

The issue is with how Ford is allocating broncos. For some reason even though my dealer has 70 orders and had a 100% conversion rate he is only getting 16 NON FE broncos for model year 2021. After further conversation with with him he said only people who ordered in the first 6 hours are getting a 2021 unless they are an FE order, he is getting 7 of those.

You would think Ford would allocate at least enough for ALL dealer to be able to fill orders for at least the first few days orders were open. The fact that my dealer cant fill beyond 6 hour time stamps and the next dealer can fill orders from October is insane. The fact that orders from first day are going to be shut out and people who sat on the fence for weeks to months can get a 2021 is just crazy to me. I mean I stayed up on the 13th for 4 hours trying to place an order but finally gave up after minight as Fords system had crashed. So I got up early around 6:30 AM and placed my order. FOr that I have to wait at least 18 months from that day and a whole model year to get one. But yet someone else on this forum already posted an email with a June build and they ordered around Thanksgiving. Whatever.

 

[bronc'o]

The issue is with how Ford is allocating broncos. For some reason even though my dealer has 70 orders and had a 100% conversion rate he is only getting 16 NON FE broncos for model year 2021. After further conversation with with him he said only people who ordered in the first 6 hours are getting a 2021 unless they are an FE order, he is getting 7 of those.

You would think Ford would allocate at least enough for ALL dealer to be able to fill orders for at least the first few days orders were open. The fact that my dealer cant fill beyond 6 hour time stamps and the next dealer can fill orders from October is insane. The fact that orders from first day are going to be shut out and people who sat on the fence for weeks to months can get a 2021 is just crazy to me. I mean I stayed up on the 13th for 4 hours trying to place an order but finally gave up after minight as Fords system had crashed. So I got up early around 6:30 AM and placed my order. FOr that I have to wait at least 18 months from that day and a whole model year to get one. But yet someone else on this forum already posted an email with a June build and they ordered around Thanksgiving. Whatever.

Something's definitely off here. I would call Ford and share with them what your dealer is saying. Can't hurt to get their take. I'm in CT as well, btw.

 

[abe]

There are no commodities restraints other than a black painted roof. They are ahead of schedule and those with their four digits Order number that was created by the dealer when you ordered will be getting the VIN number for those who reserved within the 2021 Ford time frame.

You're still not answering @ZackDanger's question. Where did you get this info? Are you a dealer? Do you work for Ford? Did your dealer tell you this? Did you dream this up? This is contrary to what Ford has put out in the past. That is why we would like to know where the info is coming from.

 

[LSBronco13]

You're still not answering @ZackDanger's question. Where did you get this info? Are you a dealer? Do you work for Ford? Did your dealer tell you this? Did you dream this up? This is contrary to what Ford has put out in the past. That is why we would like to know where the info is coming from.

I spoke with a Ford Corporate representative to the Bronco. She gave me the link that was first shared by me to you all BEFORE Bronco 6G administrators mentioned the VIN and Dealer order number. I found the reading and speculation on this site tiring and too speculative so I communicated with Ford Corporate. I stated in summary the conversation I had and the information they released to me.

 

[mdonathan56]

LOL. Maybe someone's transfer like this sniped the OPs MY21 Bronco from him.

OP, I'm sorry to hear about your frustration. Your dealer should have been telling you all along that being right on the cusp of estimated allocations meant things could fall either way...

...the thing to remember is that the difference between a MY21 and MY22 isn't months... or a year...
that change over is a brief shutdown, so the production from one model year to the next is basically continuous.

Depending on how allocations will work in MY22, if you were right on the cusp the begin with, it's likely that your delivery window hasn't changed much, if at all... what changed was how many Broncos Ford could produce and deliver to your dealer before MY22 happened.

MY21/MY22 feels like a huge difference since we've been waiting almost a year for the first production to start... but the difference for someone on the cusp is just a couple weeks.

Here. I made a handy chart:

Do you have a white board next to the computer or a program that allows you to work write on the screen?

 

[ZackDanger]

I spoke with a Ford Corporate representative to the Bronco. She gave me the link that was first shared by me to you all BEFORE Bronco 6G administrators mentioned the VIN and Dealer order number. I found the reading and speculation on this site tiring and too speculative so I communicated with Ford Corporate. I stated in summary the conversation I had and the information they released to me.

Full disclosure: I’ve been wrong before, but from what you’ve elaborated it on it sounds like your interpretation of what will happen is slightly off.

If we’re talking about a 4 digit number that gets assigned when the build is scheduled, and then the VIN is assigned, then not everyone is going to get a vin in the next couple weeks. Only when an order gets scheduled will that happen. Builds are scheduled when they are next up and VINs assigned when the parts are on hand and they will bolt them together in a week or so.

If you’re talking about the “Order Code” on your Order Summary sheet that is a random 4 digit number assigned by the ordering system when the order is first drafted that a dealer can change to something else (letters can be used in the first and last places). The existence of this number doesn’t mean anything in terms of when your Bronco will be scheduled or VIN assigned.

I guess what’s confusing all of us, is the information you received from Ford runs contrary to everything we understand from history and the Bronco itself... including the public statements made by Ford and knowledgeable dealership employees here on the forum.

If what you’re sharing is accurate and faithful to what you were told and what reality is, you’ve got some incredible intel and know something no one else knows. If everyone will get their VIN assigned in the next couple weeks, irrespective of when they’ll receive their Bronco, that basically changes everything for a lot of people on the forum.

Considering how significant that info is, I don’t think anyone is likely to believe you unless you can point to a corroborating source or relay in much greater detail how it will happen. Simply saying “my source told me everyone gets a vin in the next couple weeks” won’t cut the mustard on its own, even if true.

 

[ZackDanger]

Do you have a white board next to the computer or a program that allows you to work write on the screen?

It’s just an iPad that thanks to the Mac ecosystem allows me to natively and quickly sketch something into a jpg/pdf and send it to my desktop.

 

[abe]

I spoke with a Ford Corporate representative to the Bronco. She gave me the link that was first shared by me to you all BEFORE Bronco 6G administrators mentioned the VIN and Dealer order number. I found the reading and speculation on this site tiring and too speculative so I communicated with Ford Corporate. I stated in summary the conversation I had and the information they released to me.

Thanks for the answer

 

[Razorbak86]

If I get kicked to 2022’ I may look at different vehicle...cough* cough* Jeep Rubicon 392. Depends what my delivery outlook is. I’m not waiting another year for delivery

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