7 speed manual ONLY with the 2.3?!

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Ford! dammit, don't you know the ppl who would order a manual are the same ppl who would order the 2.7L!?! 🤦‍♂️
what a misstep! I'm hoping this is a mistake and can be rectified before production.... 😠





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I agree. I would have ordered 1st Ed but it said no stick on 1st Ed. I woils assume many badlanders will want to go with 37” and 2.3 is not going to be enough power.
 

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Ford Performance currently sells an engine tune for the Ranger 2.3L. Has gains of 45 HP and 60 lb/ft of torque. I would be very surprised if they don't offer something similar for the Bronco.
 

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The only part that's 'fragile' is the the bottom of the cylinder where the liner connects to the block. The water jacket is pretty thin there, but correctly done, it is still able to produce a LOT of power.
The block issue was on the Mustangs only, I haven't heard of that issue on the RS.
It's quite possible also that Ford will address that and add some webbing on the block (or has done so already).

Unless there is some weirdness with towing or gear ratios, Iam ordering mine with the 2.3 and manual.

I know almost nothing about engines but correct me if im wrong but are these engines not notorious for being fragile? Wouldnt that blow the engine up?
 

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I've got no problem with the 2.3 and the MT. It's all in the gears. Plus, I'm getting this for low speed work, not top end interstate travel.
 

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I have no doubt that the 2.3 is capable, and when you pair anything with a stick shift it automatically becomes more fun.

However, the disappointment comes when I imagine what the same $ in tuning would gain in the 2.7.

Not to mention the added benefit of the 2.7 being both port and direct injected vs the 2.3's direct injection only. Carbon buildup can only be slowed down, not fully prevented.

Worse is the fear that others have mentioned, where in a few years Ford will say that the take rate on the manual was so low that they had no choice but to eliminate it.
 

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Disappointed, but it's not the end of the world

Just with the trans tq limit, kinda does make sense
 

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Ford! dammit, don't you know the ppl who would order a manual are the same ppl who would order the 2.7L!?! 🤦‍♂️
what a misstep! I'm hoping this is a mistake and can be rectified before production.... 😠
Unless it's something stupid cheap like $1000 to upgrade to the 2.7L I'd never pay the price premium. The fun part of a stick is wringing out power from a "low" power engine, and saving a ton of cash when you buy the car/truck. Only thing that entices me about the 2.7L is that is has port injection.

So speak for yourself. 2.3L + manual is the only way I'd ever order a Bronco, unless an NA V6 was available for the same price or less.
 

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Ford! dammit, don't you know the ppl who would order a manual are the same ppl who would order the 2.7L!?! 🤦‍♂️
what a misstep! I'm hoping this is a mistake and can be rectified before production.... 😠
Yea I'm disappointed the manual is not available in the 2.7! The 10 speed is intriguing but I'm old school and love to shift!
 
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going with the 4 cylinder and manual, just hope it has more power than my old Ranger. It was 2wd with the 4 cylinder manual and the very most gutless ever. Terrible mpg also . It was a dual ignition engine.
 

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And upwards of 34 people were disappointed


Lol. Nobody buys manuals anymore. I've driven manual all my life but autos are faster and more efficient than manuals now.

Manual customers have to be enthusiasts, but how many enthusiasts want the slow version?

My next car will be auto, maybe electric
 

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Lol. Nobody buys manuals anymore. I've driven manual all my life but autos are faster and more efficient than manuals now.

Manual customers have to be enthusiasts, but how many enthusiasts want the slow version?

My next car will be auto, maybe electric
I've never bought a new car that wasn't a manual. Used cars, I've had a few slush boxes but only to get me by long enough to get a car I actually want. The Bronco will be no different. I don't intend to change this pattern until I'm driving an electric car, in which case you could say it's a single speed gear so the question of auto vs. manual is irrelevant.

There was a poll on here and the take rate is projected as high as 50% for certain demographics, interestingly including gens X, Y, and Z. For cars with an enthusiast following, the manual transmission is going nowhere anytime soon.

I'll take your point that they are faster on some cars, and more efficient on paper, but my anecdotal experience suggests the EPA fuel economy test cycle is slanted against manual transmissions. And who cares if it is fast or economical if it's less fun to drive?

So, in closing, I expect at least 35 people are disappointed, maybe more!
 

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