as a firefighter try putting an ev fire out. Some take 24 hours submerged in water.
It isn't, my entire point has been that a battery only car cannot replace a gas or hybrid one for a lot of use scenarios. A battery car is great solution for some, but not everyone. And pointing out why it isn't a valid choice for many people is literally just pointing our reality.
Don't drag me into that, I haven't brought up cost to charge at all as I have no idea. :lol: I know my wife's Clarity has affected our bill buy by how much I have no clue since energy costs are going up elsewise.
Add in the new quick change batteries that are around the corner and you'll be swapping out for a "new" set of batteries that are performing within specs and your old batteries will be swapped out of the system when their time is up. Kind of like swapping your propane tank out at the store, you can take a rusty looking tank with a good valve and get a freshly paint one, for a small premium over filling your old tank.
OK, here is a trip I just did a couple weeks back (on a Thurs/Fri). Started 5 AM on Thurs. 353 miles, Did stop here and there and did get gas once, even though we did not have to stop. Total time getting gas, 5 minutes. The other stops were WHENEVER and WHERE EVER we felt like it. The reason that is significant, is EV's FORCE you to stop where you have to charge, instead of getting gas for 5 minutes and then stopping where you really might want to. Who knows what you will see, even just on the side of the road or billboard where you might want to stop. And that 20-30 minute charge is rarely to 100% on most EV's.
That's where I think the idiocrasy comes in. There's no perfect vehicle (ICE or EV) that checks all the boxes, it's why we have vans, sports cars, small SUVs, large SUVs. EVs fit perfectly in the list of available options for car buyers. But for some insane reason there are anti-EV people wrapping up their entire identity in making sure everyone in the world is aware that EVs have less range towing and require more time to charge than it would take to fill up. It makes no sense lol. Just like a family of 4 won't buy a 2 seater Porsche, a long haul driver or frequent road tripper won't buy an EV. Nothing to see here, move on lol.You are literally ignoring reality however. Because something may help it does not solve it. There is no solution until a magic battery is created. And there is no physical nor scientific basis for one. I will toss in "yet" for y'all but it would take a fundamental change in how batteries work. Basic stuff.
The hard headed people who seem to think electric is viable for everyone just cannot accept reality. Batteries cannot do what they hope they can do. It is not about battery technology needing to progress more, it is about as far as it can go. Just look at the industry. I see some people saying they would never own an electric car and that's good for them. Others claim they theirs. Again good for them. For the vast majority of drivers an all electric car is fine for short commuting and such. Will that new maybe technology help bridge it with infrequent use? Absolutely but it does not solve the fundamental problem with batteries. They wear out, and faster the harder/fast you charge them. They are not repairable nor rebuildable. They are junk. But that is not directly related to the viability of them as true replacement to gas cars as an only car.
Having all kinds of choices is great. Some work for some people and some not at all for others. Hell this site is exactly all about that. All of people would find a Bronco as all but useless or unneeded for their uses. Yet here we are. I hope we see gas, hybrid, fuel cell and electric cars and Bronco models. I have been hoping for a hybrid Bronco for a while but Ford doesn't seem interested in one. Can't say I blame them, they have enough demand without it currently.
Just go back and read what has been said here. I am correct.
The government should not be in the business of telling manufacturers what their warranty should be. If Teslyota makes a battery that they feel under normal usage can be warrantied for 10 years they should do it, if they feel only 3, then do that. It is up to the person buying it to decide what is important to them.
No I totally agree, but there are also people that glorify a battery car as solution for everything when it isn't.
I don't agree with mandates, but then again regardless of what California stated (EVs only by 2035 or whatever) it's not going to happen. Shit, wasn't realID suppose to be law by 2019 and we couldn't fly without it, now it's been pushed to 2025. Maybe that's where people are rubbed the wrong way? In either case I follow so many car magazine and enthusiast pages (like this one) and like clockwork half the comments are "HAVE FUN WAITING TO CHARGE" or "TRY TOWING 10,000 POUNDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND BACK". I just shake my head. I didn't buy a bronco for the track, I didn't buy my BMW for roadtrips, I'm not buying my EV to haul across the country.
I’m gonna be frank here, this is a really stupid argument.Has anybody ever forgot to charge their phone, cordless power tools, golf cart, etc.
I know I have. But in 45 years I never was late forgetting to put fuel in my vehicle.
No argument here. Just stating personal experience.
