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I guess what I’m asking is.. I’m looking at a BD. I know signature lighting isn’t available. But I plan on getting the mid package. I know there was talking about the kid package getting you LED tails due to BLIS (similar to F150s and Rangers). Do we think that’s the case with the BLIS not in the housing but below now?
Great question!! I'm bouncing between Big Bend and Black Diamond! I asked Brandon at Grangers that very same question and I never got it answered! I believe he may have overlooked the question accidently!

I'm really wanting the tube-step, LED Signature & tail lights, Advance 4x, MGV!

I'm hoping to convert my reservation tomorrow into an order with Granger!! Decisions! Decisions!
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Edit: I'll also point out that a BLIS sensor will have reduced efficiency and range if placed behind a metal panel.
...right, but who's saying those modules go beneath a metal panel? Willing to bet those fender-end closeouts are painted plastic/ composite. May have to go find a parked prototype this weekend and rap on the surfaces for S&G.


Posted earlier, someone was able to confirm that the BLIS is *not* included in the taillamp, but rather separate units mounted below the tail lights. (The black boxes visible in my post from earlier in the thread.)
Yep. Not that this helps much or any, but from the bits of the OE wiring diagram that are starting to eke through service portals...

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Further, this is pin-out for the connectors on the LH LED signature tail (RH pinout is identical, just mirrored).
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I don't see a circuit for SODC/ BLIS listed as entering the lamp housing.

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$43,275 - 4Dr Base 2.7L Squatch, MIC, Aux
$47,545 - 4Dr BB 2.7L Squatch, MIC, Aux

$4275 - BB from Base
$795 - Signature Lights

$5070 - Not spending this to get Sig Lights AND Lose the Sasquatch Base Badge

I'll save my money and get Sig Lights on my Warthog
 

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WHAT

The prices for these parts are exactly 4x what I would have estimated. $1,600 PER HEADLIGHT? On a...Ford...RANGER? I would have guessed $800 for a pair of headlights and $500 for a pair of taillights. $1,600 for one headlight has me thinking state of the art tech built into an S-Class headlight

These numbers just dont make sense. Especially when you think about the cost of ranger vs the cost of replacement parts in a collision. A 2021 ranger in 5 years after depreciation, sustaining some front end damage could easily be flagged as totalled, if $3,200 for a set of headlight is a sign of what other parts could cost. Just the headlight parts alone would be 15%+ of the future value of the vehicle.
 
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I honestly prefer the base lighting look.
But if I change my mind. I will look into 1968 bronco headlight conversion for $12.95 each.
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$5200!!!

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...right, but who's saying those modules go beneath a metal panel? Willing to bet those fender-end closeouts are painted plastic/ composite. May have to go find a parked prototype this weekend and rap on the surfaces for S&G.




Yep. Not that this helps much or any, but from the bits of the OE wiring diagram that are starting to eke through service portals...

1620233073060.png


Further, this is pin-out for the connectors on the LH LED signature tail (RH pinout is identical, just mirrored).
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I don't see a circuit for SODC/ BLIS listed as entering the lamp housing.

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At this point we can't confirm the materials which will be covering these modules or sensors. The BLIS sensors have proven to be reliable with plastic coverings and the proximity sensors must be uncovered (thus bumper mounted).

My original post was made some time ago when there was still speculation what was possible as there had been a half-dozen new threads about swapping the lights across. As of this writing we still don't know if it's possible or at what cost. All a waiting game!

Thanks for posting the pinout and parts diagram. Frankly i'm too old and care about other things than digging that deep for info to give others that level of detail. If it was a project i'm doing on my rig then I would delve deeper and give the info. My personal hunch is that Ford will be consistent with history (both theirs, and other OEM's) and make a hardware swap to upgraded content difficult at best. I still haven't seen a single successful headlight swap aside from the one thread linked in the OP and that was a Ford employee who admitted it was financially a poor decision compared to just buying the upgraded trim level that had the content he wanted.

$5070 - Not spending this to get Sig Lights AND Lose the Sasquatch Base Badge
I'm pretty sure you can order the Base Sasquatch badge from the parts counter for a lot less than $50,070. Bet they won't even require you to verify you have that model to purchase the badge!

WHAT

The prices for these parts are exactly 4x what I would have estimated. $1,600 PER HEADLIGHT? On a...Ford...RANGER? I would have guessed $800 for a pair of headlights and $500 for a pair of taillights. $1,600 for one headlight has me thinking state of the art tech built into an S-Class headlight
Yes, this is fact what the headlights cost. Headlamps have long been one of the most expensive single part-numbers of a car almost as soon as HID lamps came onto the market from OEM's. These prices aren't absurd or out of line with the rest of the automotive landscape.

Your fun analogy with the S-class is awesome (sounds like a comment i'd make!) however, it falls apart when you price out S-class headlights as they are well north of what Ranger headlights cost.

https://www.pelicanparts.com/byv-s-class-2014-w222/c-electrical-lighting_c-headlights

Are you saying that if someone hit my Broncos headlight it would cost $5200 to replace?
I would venture a guess we're all saying you didn't read the thread, especially the first post.
 

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If it really costs $5300 to swap to the sig lights..... I’m speechless.

especially since yesterday in traffic I realized the base taillights are from the econoline parts bin.
 

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After seeing the Broncos in person at Super Cel, I prefer the base lights (and simpler overall appearance) so much that I am 99% sure I'll switch my order from OB to Base.
You had me til the “I’ll choose to to pay $15,000 less than i intended “
OB has a lot more than just sig.
 

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Does the standard rear lights have BLIS - so where is the sensor ? BLIS is blindspot monitoring, correct, and isn't that part of the mid package ?
 
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