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Ford Bronco Another example of Bronco price gouging 367C3FE8-9B8B-4646-B721-EA657EB0A2CB


FWIW, no one really likes this whole ADM debacle. But truth is “it is what it is”.
we can negotiate our pricing, terms, shop dealers beforehand, reserve and order where it makes the most sense.

For those that didn’t, or people off the street with no order=prepare to pay a markup or wait until the market cools down.
It’s the ugly truth.
Other than the few who agreed on a price verbally only later to get hosed. That’s a whole other issue that sucks on another level.
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There must be an awful lot of car salesman on this forum because the amount of support I see here for dealers marking up vehicles is disgusting.
This literally happens with every desirable new release vehicle on the market and has for years. I've seen it with Corvettes, Kias and even Mitsubishi's. Why should Bronco be any different? A dealership would be foolish to leave that money on the table especially now.
 

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Dealers doing this are disgusting. I have a second reservation with my dealer not yet converted to an order, so if they try to play games I will remind them of that fact, if they still try to play games, I'll just order from another dealer and let them have it. I can wait.
 

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I think it's funny, when you look at the people defending this ridiculous greedy bullshit, their listed vehicles are always like 4 or 5 deep with a Porche or like multiple Audis or something like that... Hey rich people, not everyone out there has $10,000 sitting around that they can literally just throw away. Us peasant working class people deserve to buy Broncos too....

I won't get into the whole economics of it all because that's just gonna be an argument that nobody is going to agree on. The whole "dealer" system needs to just go away (in it's current form) and Ford needs to sell direct, then the problem goes away. We're headed towards that, can't happen fast enough in my opinion.
What does one have to do with the other?
 

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I think it's funny, when you look at the people defending this ridiculous greedy bullshit, their listed vehicles are always like 4 or 5 deep with a Porche or like multiple Audis or something like that... Hey rich people, not everyone out there has $10,000 sitting around that they can literally just throw away. Us peasant working class people deserve to buy Broncos too....

I won't get into the whole economics of it all because that's just gonna be an argument that nobody is going to agree on. The whole "dealer" system needs to just go away (in it's current form) and Ford needs to sell direct, then the problem goes away. We're headed towards that, can't happen fast enough in my opinion.
My Bronco will cost more than my last 2 new cars combined...it's called "free market" and if sellers wouldn't get that price then they wouldn't ask it. Find a good dealer that doesn't demand adm, it's not difficult. People here should be embarrassed to come in crying about big bad dealers when some cars have cars have demanded adm for years.
 

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There must be an awful lot of car salesman on this forum because the amount of support I see here for dealers marking up vehicles is disgusting.
So, if you're a dealer and have abandoned orders, how would you decide who gets them other than selling to the person that would pay the most for them? I don't get it...there is huge demand for the vehicle, so how else would they sell them?

Orders are completely different, and dealers who said they were selling below invoice/invoice/MSRP should honor that or be crushed on here. Abandoned orders like this one? The dealers should sell them for what they can in this market of limited inventory...there is no other reasonable way to do it.

For me, locked in at below invoice with a dealer who is selling a few hundred below invoice...I hope they do make some cash on those that aren't picked up. If you don't want to pay an ADM, plenty of dealers will order you one without it and put that in writing. Don't want to wait and didn't order? Pay the price...
 

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The whole economics (that I didn't want to get into) is that capitalism greatly favors the rich and takes away from the working class.
Really? You ever been to a socialist country? You would have everyone be equally "poor" than have the opportunity for everyone to achieve greatness....and our poor live better than most country's top 10%. You want a Bronco? Work for it...achieve; you can if you want to because you live under somewhat free capitalism where anyone can achieve if they commit to it.
 

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1. ADM is greedy. Dealers do it because they can, because some rich person will pay.

2. Rich people don't have a problem with it because what's $10k when you have a million dollars. They can get something they want without having to go through the process and wait like the rest of us.

3. The main reason demand is so high is because supply is low and if Ford sold direct they wouldn't be price gouging.

The whole economics (that I didn't want to get into) is that capitalism greatly favors the rich and takes away from the working class. This is another prime example. Adding $10k ADM makes it impossible for anyone without a large down payment to buy a Bronco because you're not gonna get financed for like 120%+ of the purchase price (you have to factor is sales tax too). So now most of the working class is excluded from buying a Bronco without a reservation.
Even your false equivalencies are bad.

Take a breath and try that again. That made no sense at all.
 

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1. ADM is greedy. Dealers do it because they can, because some rich person will pay.

2. Rich people don't have a problem with it because what's $10k when you have a million dollars. They can get something they want without having to go through the process and wait like the rest of us.

3. The main reason demand is so high is because supply is low and if Ford sold direct they wouldn't be price gouging.

The whole economics (that I didn't want to get into) is that capitalism greatly favors the rich and takes away from the working class. This is another prime example. Adding $10k ADM makes it impossible for anyone without a large down payment to buy a Bronco because you're not gonna get financed for like 120%+ of the purchase price (you have to factor is sales tax too). So now most of the working class is excluded from buying a Bronco without a reservation.
If you’re talking economics, is it good economics to buy a vehicle you have to almost finance all of it? Probably not.
 

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Really? You ever been to a socialist country? You would have everyone be equally "poor" than have the opportunity for everyone to achieve greatness....and our poor live better than most country's top 10%. You want a Bronco? Work for it...achieve; you can if you want to because you live under somewhat free capitalism where anyone can achieve if they commit to it.
This is exactly what I didn't want to get into, a whole capitalism vs socialism BS argument that isn't going to go anywhere for anyone. I said absolutely nothing about socialism vs capitalism or anything even close to that. Every single aspect of capitalism isn't perfect (you're not automatically a socialist for saying that). I was just stating facts, it is a fact that capitalism is an economic system based around capital so inherently favors people with more money.

I really don't know why I argue in these types of threads, people are never going to agree, just turns into BS arguments and BS politics. People start taking shots at each other, I'm as guilty as anyone else, probably shouldn't have made my Porche/Audi comment...

I'm over it, argue away if you want to. I'm gonna just focus on that this week is my build week and try to ignore threads like this...
 

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This is exactly what I didn't want to get into, a whole capitalism vs socialism BS argument that isn't going to go anywhere for anyone.
Then you shouldn't have brought it up...your argument against capitalism was the worst I have ever heard...that the "working class" (whatever that is, we all work) couldn't afford a Bronco without a reservation...oh the horror! They actually have to either 1) Make a reservation or 2) Work harder or smarter...an incentive!....without that incentive, no one works harder or smarter and you get Cuba...
 

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1. ADM is greedy. Dealers do it because they can, because some rich person will pay.

2. Rich people don't have a problem with it because what's $10k when you have a million dollars. They can get something they want without having to go through the process and wait like the rest of us.

3. The main reason demand is so high is because supply is low and if Ford sold direct they wouldn't be price gouging.

The whole economics (that I didn't want to get into) is that capitalism greatly favors the rich and takes away from the working class. This is another prime example. Adding $10k ADM makes it impossible for anyone without a large down payment to buy a Bronco because you're not gonna get financed for like 120%+ of the purchase price (you have to factor is sales tax too). So now most of the working class is excluded from buying a Bronco without a reservation.
In your world an extra 10k means their "rich"? A bunch of people whom I associate with (we're normies) buy vehicles, that to me, seem more expensive than they should be affording. Heck, a coworker of mine just bought a used 2020 Tacoma and payed out the ass for it. It was easily marked up 15k because of the current market we're in. He didn't buy it because he's rich, he just extended the loan and will somehow deal with the extra $100 a month payment. Rich? No. Smart? No 😂
 

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This is exactly what I didn't want to get into, a whole capitalism vs socialism BS argument that isn't going to go anywhere for anyone. I said absolutely nothing about socialism vs capitalism or anything even close to that. Every single aspect of capitalism isn't perfect (you're not automatically a socialist for saying that). I was just stating facts, it is a fact that capitalism is an economic system based around capital so inherently favors people with more money.

I really don't know why I argue in these types of threads, people are never going to agree, just turns into BS arguments and BS politics. People start taking shots at each other, I'm as guilty as anyone else, probably shouldn't have made my Porche/Audi comment...

I'm over it, argue away if you want to. I'm gonna just focus on that this week is my build week and try to ignore threads like this...
Every economic system favors people with more money.
 

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1. ADM is greedy. Dealers do it because they can, because some rich person will pay.

2. Rich people don't have a problem with it because what's $10k when you have a million dollars. They can get something they want without having to go through the process and wait like the rest of us.

3. The main reason demand is so high is because supply is low and if Ford sold direct they wouldn't be price gouging.

The whole economics (that I didn't want to get into) is that capitalism greatly favors the rich and takes away from the working class. This is another prime example. Adding $10k ADM makes it impossible for anyone without a large down payment to buy a Bronco because you're not gonna get financed for like 120%+ of the purchase price (you have to factor is sales tax too). So now most of the working class is excluded from buying a Bronco without a reservation.
So if I was super rich and I wanted a car I couldn’t find because of supply constraints, and I walked up to a guy in his driveway and offered him 10k more than he paid for his… am I still the oppressor here, or did the working-class guy just exploit me by excessively benefiting from my labor while he himself did nothing other than own something of value?
Anyway, if you can’t afford something, don’t buy it. If you really want it, maybe you have to wait and save. There’s nothing wrong with that. Good advice for anyone, commie or capitalist alike.
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