Anyone else checking out the new Jeep vehicles?

[LSU Jonno]

I don't think the Grand Wagoneer is ugly, it's just not sexy, and it's completely indistinguishable from it's competition from a styling standpoint (except the co-pilot DJ screen as mentioned before).

Plus, who the hell wants to pay $100k for an FCA product!!!!!

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[quattroa4m]

I priced out a Rubicon yesterday for $55-60K, add hybrid option to that, so $65-70k?
I just don't see the payback in a hybrid, sure you save a little on gas, but how long does it take to get back your $5k-10k investment over standard Rubicon? If its over 7 years, not worth it.
Current gen Wrangler has issues with water in electronics already, and you want to buy a vehicle from them with more electronics?? Good Luck.

What everyone seems to forget is that the hybrid range steadily declines with time...physics is physics. If you keep a hybrid long enough, battery replacement is going to be an expensive reality. Then there's the inevitable problem of trade-in value. There aren't very many people looking for a hybrid with a dead battery.

 

[Chanman3123]

That wagoneer is ugly af IMO. Total miss, I was expecting it to be way more retro. I know it wasn’t going to be exactly like this because obviously it’s a full size but I was expecting at least for it to take some cues.

The hybrid wrangler is cool but Chrysler has never been a huge hybrid manufacturer. I would have zero interest in one outside the warranty period.

Now that would have made me rethink the Bronco. I do plan on putting those old school strips on my bronco with white Graphic Auto Wrap.

 

[Dads_bronze_bronco]

Hmmm - rated for 2500kg towing in Australia so capable at least - 50MPGe - PHEV here now. Can get one in December. Wonder what the pricing will be ... ?

 

[ColoradoGuy]

With FCA's track record, not much of a miss for Ford, actually probably a calculated move by Ford to let FCA announce first. Wouldn't want to be the one ponying up for a 4xe Rubicon, only to get smoked by Ford, when their offering comes out.

I don't think people have figured out that Ford is serious about the Bronco family. Ford has had a long time to get this right and the evidence to-date has shown Ford has exceeded expectations.

At any rate, what's the hurry? If it has to be a hybrid, waiting for Ford's offering would seem to be prudent.

Good points... but to answer your last question... my daily driver is 17 years old and

to get my new ride.

 

[quattroa4m]

Good points... but to answer your last question... my daily driver is 17 years old and

to get my new ride.

A very patient man, indeed.

 

[Washbjj88]

To be fair, 30 miles is pretty standard for most PHEV, even larger Hybrid players like Toyota. They're having to cram in an electric system into an already crowded space (think about the 4 wheel drive system underneath). There's not alot of packaging options for large batteries.

I think your helping make my point. 30 mile is on par with hybrids that have been out for years. Jeep is late to the game in my opinion. Although, it is commendable and impressive in a off-road SUV, I just wish they would have pushed past the current standards.

 

[RedRiverRev]

I think your helping make my point. 30 mile is on par with hybrids that have been out for years. Jeep is late to the game in my opinion. Although, it is commendable and impressive in a off-road SUV, I just wish they would have pushed past the current standards.

I think with current battery technology and packaging, any company is limited on a PHEV. I'm saying, if a company like Toyota can't squeeze out amazing numbers (I guess it depends on what your definition of great numbers are on a PHEV), I don't expect much from Jeep. I think the bar should be pretty low given the current technology. Car companies are less about innovation in battery technology and more about how to take current technology and apply it to existing lineups.

 

[Section8]

I am pretty interested in the 4xE wrangler as I am very into electrification of vehicles, but it being limited to the 4 door might create a hard pass for me. I really don't like the look of 4 door Wranglers and I genuinely don't have the need for it.

 

[timhood]

That wagoneer is ugly af IMO. Total miss, I was expecting it to be way more retro. I know it wasn’t going to be exactly like this because obviously it’s a full size but I was expecting at least for it to take some cues.

Did you miss the design cues? Here, I've pointed them out for you. Too subtle?

 

[timhood]

Just announced:

- 4xE electric plug in hybrids
- 4xE Wrangler with quiet engine, good torque, and 50mpge!
- Grand Wagoneer ($100k+, I wanna see that version of the Bronco)

I'm still sold on Bronco, but I'm thinking about waiting for that Hybrid now! Tax Rebates & gas prices are set to go up soon!

Wrangler still has recirculating ball steering and solid front axle? It's not on my list.

 

[BroncOcotillo]

The Wrangler “Mojave” desert runner rumored out in 2021:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-jeep-wrangler-mojave-rumor-details/

 

[Dick_Castlesmurff]

If I could get a 2 door wrangler with the turbo diesel, I'd be very interested. I don't think it will be likely that Ford would ever put on in a 2 door Bronco either so its whatever I guess.

 

[GotGOAT]

Does the hybrid Jeep still come with free death wobble?, asking for a friend.

Why yes, yes it does because...”It’s a Jeep thing!”
I recently test drove 3 different JLUs 2 Rubicons and 1 Sport S (all at the same dealer) and they all drove, handled, and steered different. I even let air out of the tires until they were all at 32psi. “We don’t got to fix it, if we never admit the front end has issues.“

 

[GotGOAT]

I'll be honest.... the 4xe Rubicon has peaked my interest. I'm still leaning heavily toward the Wildtrak/Badlands (haven't decided yet) and definitely not cancelling my pre-order right now, but if the 4xe Rubicon comes in comparably equipped at say $10k or more less (which I highly doubt), I'll be making the switch.

I really wish Ford offered the plug-in hybrid at launch with the Bronco. Letting Jeep do this before them is a bit of a miss in my opinion. Ford has the technology (well ahead of FCA) so not sure why they chose to wait.

Keep in mind, FCA couldn’t keep the smaller AUX battery charged without issues on a good number of Wranglers during the JL/JLU rollout.
i would give them some time to get it right before I dove in. With an expensive hybrid Jeep Wrangler.

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