Are you going to custom-order your Bronco or pick one off the lot?

[Fosters]

I think a lot of us were hoping for this in the GT500, but never got it :sigh:

I have a feeling that with the way FI coyotes cook cats, they figured a blower would be a bit easier on them than turbos... And packaging is quite a bit easier on a PD blower... But yes, it would be awesome.

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[Jake_zx2]

I have a feeling that with the way FI coyotes cook cats, they figured a blower would be a bit easier on them than turbos... And packaging is quite a bit easier on a PD blower... But yes, it would be awesome.

Ahh, that makes sense. I didn’t realize that was a common issue tbh... most people I know that add boost don’t even have cats haha

 

[Motorpsychology]

Also, 2 years from now my wife will have her masters in psychology, so when shes pulling 80k a year, I may get a f250 tremor and she'll get the bronco.

Or, she goes on to get a phd at $20K/yr tuition, she then convinces you that you need to release your inner miser, you trade down the Bronco for a used Corolla, and she goes out and gets a Black Label Nav.

 

[Roughrider]

Will probably have to custom order one because I want a manual 2 door, I’m guessing the dealer will just load up with auto 4 doors, leaving limited choice in 2 doors. Every time I’ve gone to a dealer looking for a manual, I get told “you don’t want that...we never even order them because they don’t sell, you’ll never sell it when you want to, etc”.

Just wishing they’d let you spec it out exactly how you want it, not having to pick packages. Would be a great thing for Ford to do to adjust to the times...order online, exactly how you want it.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

Will probably have to custom order one because I want a manual 2 door, I’m guessing the dealer will just load up with auto 4 doors, leaving limited choice in 2 doors. Every time I’ve gone to a dealer looking for a manual, I get told “you don’t want that...we never even order them because they don’t sell, you’ll never sell it when you want to, etc”.
Yeah, fuck that shit. Customer's always right, so if they don't order it, they've lost out

Just wishing they’d let you spec it out exactly how you want it, not having to pick packages. Would be a great thing for Ford to do to adjust to the times...order online, exactly how you want it.
It's funny, someone made a thread all about that

 

[Jake_zx2]

Will probably have to custom order one because I want a manual 2 door, I’m guessing the dealer will just load up with auto 4 doors, leaving limited choice in 2 doors. Every time I’ve gone to a dealer looking for a manual, I get told “you don’t want that...we never even order them because they don’t sell, you’ll never sell it when you want to, etc”.

Just wishing they’d let you spec it out exactly how you want it, not having to pick packages. Would be a great thing for Ford to do to adjust to the times...order online, exactly how you want it.

It kills me because I'm personally a fan of stealership cruising, but manual transmission sales are the main reason I want the industry to shift away from privately owned dealerships. They never stock manuals because its a more selective crowd and they're afraid to not sell a car, but most customers don't want to go through the hassle of custom ordering a car, so they'll settle for an auto off the lot... leading manufacturers to believe that we don't want manuals. Perhaps if the only option was a factory order, then the manual take rate would be higher

We should also make manual part of passing or failing a driver's test, but that's beside the point

 

[Motorpsychology]

It kills me because I'm personally a fan of stealership cruising, but manual transmission sales are the main reason I want the industry to shift away from privately owned dealerships. They never stock manuals because its a more selective crowd and they're afraid to not sell a car, but most customers don't want to go through the hassle of custom ordering a car, so they'll settle for an auto off the lot... leading manufacturers to believe that we don't want manuals. Perhaps if the only option was a factory order, then the manual take rate would be higher

We should also make manual part of passing or failing a driver's test, but that's beside the point

Not gonna happen. Automatics are required for fully autonomous vehicles. The steering wheel and pedals are the next to go. Sooner than later.

 

[Stampede.Offroad]

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We should also make manual part of passing or failing a driver's test, but that's beside the point

More plainly I think the drivers exams should be more demanding.

Culturally the main thing people associate with drivers license acquisition and renewal here is that it is perceived as a minor inconvenience or annoyance ... when objectively the thing that most people would probably want to know is that the people they share the road with took it seriously as a personal responsibility regarding the safety of the other drivers and pedestrians. Because we're collectively lazy and lack self discipline we're willing to lower the standards for everyone so the trivial inconvenience to ourselves is minimized.

I'm no proponent of more government involvement or power, but if our standards are going to be so low for licensing I'd rather just do away with it altogether if we aren't going to take it as seriously as we do mandating a plethora of baked in automobile features. Removing humans from the equation entirely is the only way that is going to work, and that's not happening in the next several decades, so we might as well expect more from the humans for now.

If we bump a few more lazy idiots out of personal autos because they're unwilling or unable to pass a slightly more rigorous licensing procedure into mass transit or communal commuting that's probably a good thing for everyone in terms of roadway safety, environment, etc. anyway.

Perhaps being run into repeatedly (in a stationary vehicle 90% of the time) by people who can't be bothered to look where they're going has soured me.

 

[Jake_zx2]

More plainly I think the drivers exams should be more demanding.

Culturally the main thing people associate with drivers license acquisition and renewal here is that it is perceived as a minor inconvenience or annoyance ... when objectively the thing that most people would probably want to know is that the people they share the road with took it seriously as a personal responsibility regarding the safety of the other drivers and pedestrians. Because we're collectively lazy and lack self discipline we're willing to lower the standards for everyone so the trivial inconvenience to ourselves is minimized.

I'm no proponent of more government involvement or power, but if our standards are going to be so low for licensing I'd rather just do away with it altogether if we aren't going to take it as seriously as we do mandating a plethora of baked in automobile features. Removing humans from the equation entirely is the only way that is going to work, and that's not happening in the next several decades, so we might as well expect more from the humans for now.

If we bump a few more lazy idiots out of personal autos because they're unwilling or unable to pass a slightly more rigorous licensing procedure into mass transit or communal commuting that's probably a good thing for everyone in terms of roadway safety, environment, etc. anyway.

Perhaps being run into repeatedly (in a stationary vehicle 90% of the time) by people who can't be bothered to look where they're going has soured me.

100% agree. I'm all for hands-off government, but the fact is that the government builds and owns our roads... that's why we have to pay for registration and licensing and such. That being said, that's why the government gets to make the rules of the road. That's why I can promote more rigorous driving restrictions while denying, say, gun restrictions.

But licensing definitely NEEDS to be a more involved, cohesive, and strict process. Having lived in Germany for a few years, driving there was euphoric. Everyone knows how to drive well, they're attentive, and they are always aware (they also drive manuals far more often.. coincidence? I think not). But their licensing restrictions are FAR heavier than ours here in the states. It costs THOUSANDS of euros and multiple years for all the training and certification required. Whenever I told a German that I had my license and my first car by 16, they were in disbelief. I think we need to adopt something similar in America. It probably shouldn't be as costly because driving shouldn't be out of reach for people based solely on income, but incompetent drivers need to be taken off the road

Not gonna happen. Automatics are required for fully autonomous vehicles. The steering wheel and pedals are the next to go. Sooner than later.

Promoting the existence of manuals slows the takeover of autonomy. I'd like to keep driver input alive for as long as possible

 

[Tslater1989]

Or, she goes on to get a phd at $20K/yr tuition, she then convinces you that you need to release your inner miser, you trade down the Bronco for a used Corolla, and she goes out and gets a Black Label Nav.

Lol well, she works for the state, they do tuition reimbursements thankfully. We made a 5 and 10 year plan, with realistic goals and lofty ones. Gotta have something to keep you reaching right? In 5 years, our combined income will hopefully be 150-200k a year. But you never know. I could be on this forum typing from the local library, before i go home to my van.....bronco... by the river.

 

[JC2DR]

I hate waiting. Always did. I had to get a Bronco Sport in 2021 because the Bronco wasn’t yet available. I want ordering one. It was ok. BS Outerbanks. Filled though with options I really never used. Except for heated steering wheel. Living in Maine I loved that. Then in Oct. I had an issue with it. Brought it into the dealer for service and while I was there, someone inexplicably traded in the Bronco I wanted in the first place! Base 2dr. Manual. Hardtop. Lifted with 33’s.
Now I might have ordered some aux switches personally, but that’s life. For me it’s a canvas to improve/ augment as I see fit. I’m loving every minute.

 

[DrewBronc21]

I hate waiting. Always did. I had to get a Bronco Sport in 2021 because the Bronco wasn’t yet available. I want ordering one. It was ok. BS Outerbanks. Filled though with options I really never used. Except for heated steering wheel. Living in Maine I loved that. Then in Oct. I had an issue with it. Brought it into the dealer for service and while I was there, someone inexplicably traded in the Bronco I wanted in the first place! Base 2dr. Manual. Hardtop. Lifted with 33’s.
Now I might have ordered some aux switches personally, but that’s life. For me it’s a canvas to improve/ augment as I see fit. I’m loving every minute.

Well you did wait 3 years to bump this thread

I was an early 2020 Reservation, changed dealers, placed order for 2 door Manual Black Diamond Sasquatch and waited….until dealer called with almost exact build that a customer backed out of so I took that “off the lot”

 

[JC2DR]

Took 3 years to find the thread‍.
Still there’s a lot to do in the upgrade dept. The thing about that though is progress continues and every day there’s a new aftermarket item that improves on something the factory has. Can’t work the price into the financing but that just gives me some pause to make sure what I want is something I can really use.

 

[BroncoWTFAN]

Ah the good old days, how I long for them.

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