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To me the Land Rover Discover shares a lot of lines with the Explorer, I do believe they share a lot of tech these days especially from the UK factory.
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I hear it will go from zero to the dealers shop in 30 minutes. It is a Land Rover after all.......:shock: :angel:
 

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I do not see how a battery powered, front wheel drive cute-ute will be any sort of competitor to a Wrangler. Last I checked there are no recharge stations in the middle of nowhere. I can carry jerry cans, spare batteries or a 100 yard square solar array, probably not.
 

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He wants to justify in his mind over paying for a little itty bitty wrangler with a v6 as compared to the new bronco. When as compared to a crew cab f150 or gmc can do so much more for the same price not to mention they are full size trucks.

I suggest he review the electric f150 hauling a train with 70 quarter tons on the rail cars as reference
 

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itty bitty wrangler with a v6 as compared to the new bronco.
The Bronco will be almost exactly the same size as the Wrangler...
 

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So that is why the old full size broncos still sell for 15-20 grand sometimes even more, I was just saying a Jeep Rubicon is 50-60 grand they sticker for about as much as a full sized lariat or platinium does for a mid size suv.. all I was saying
 

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So that is why the old full size broncos still sell for 15-20 grand sometimes even more, I was just saying a Jeep Rubicon is 50-60 grand they sticker for about as much as a full sized lariat or platinium does for a mid size suv.. all I was saying
Anyone paying $15-$20k on a 1980+ Bronco is an idiot IMO. The first and second gens are the only good ones.
 

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He wants to justify in his mind over paying for a little itty bitty wrangler with a v6 as compared to the new bronco. When as compared to a crew cab f150 or gmc can do so much more for the same price not to mention they are full size trucks.

I suggest he review the electric f150 hauling a train with 70 quarter tons on the rail cars as reference
just FYI the coefficient of rolling resistance on steel rails is about .001 - .002 so that electric F150 only had to apply about 1000-2000 lbs of force to tow those rail cars.
 

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He wants to justify in his mind over paying for a little itty bitty wrangler with a v6 as compared to the new bronco. When as compared to a crew cab f150 or gmc can do so much more for the same price not to mention they are full size trucks.

I suggest he review the electric f150 hauling a train with 70 quarter tons on the rail cars as reference
As compared to the new Bronco? What new Bronco. ;) Let me know when we can actually buy one, much less even see it unveiled. JL is a reality. Wrangler has been reality for years, only game in town for that sort of vehicle (in the USA), I give Jeep credit for that.

Also I've been pricing a manual JLU base model for a bit over 30 grand. Looks like a Ford F150 4x4 4 door crew cab as you called it, is starting at 38 grand according to Ford web site? And the top/doors don't come off the F150 either. The two are not really comparable, at least for my usage.
 

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You not comparing apples to apples if you will because one is a mid size ute and the other is a full size truck. For the price that some jeep commands you can get full size trucks and SUVs. I am a previous jeep wrangler owner and the wife and I rented a new wrangler in hawaii. They are nice but to say it will be smaller than a bronco is not accurate. This would replace my wifes cx5 again another mid size ute. I need the full size room of a full size truck but that is just my preference in trucks it obviously doesn't reflect my interest in small awd turbo cars.
 

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You not comparing apples to apples if you will because one is a mid size ute and the other is a full size truck. For the price that some jeep commands you can get full size trucks and SUVs. I am a previous jeep wrangler owner and the wife and I rented a new wrangler in hawaii. They are nice but to say it will be smaller than a bronco is not accurate. This would replace my wifes cx5 again another mid size ute. I need t hff e full size room of a full size truck but t hff at is just my preference in trucks it obviously doesn't reflect my interest in small awd turbo cars.
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