Baxter Performance Oil Filter Adapter

[broncorik]

For OCD folks like myself that tend to perseverate on things most normal people don't give a second thought, this product appeases my rabbit hole of wondering if having an adequate supply of oil every time my 2.7 starts up may perhaps extend its longevity. The alleged issue:



The 18-minute thing made sense to me, because many folks in this forum have all theorized that there are secret crevices in passageways in our 2.7s that make the oil drain back slower...but the explanation the Baxter guy provides makes far more sense (and the results are easily obtainable because when the filter is pulled first on the 2.7 prior to the oil change that 18 minutes is achieved in about 30 seconds).

https://www.baxterperformanceusa.co...r-adapter-fs-101-bk-installation-instructions

Many of us Bronco folks end up buying lots of things we don't necessarily need, such as $80 oil drain plugs, and this product may or may not be one of those kinds of things.

Sponsored

 

[Y2KFirehawk]

Thanks for sharing! I'm not a huge fan of the cartridge oil filters. I also like that this will enable me to run the same filter that my other Fords do.

 

[JBlanco]

Are you ok with Ford denying warranty on anything related to the engine with that modification? It makes sense but I wouldn't risk it.

 

[Silver-Bolt]

Is the flow volume the same (or better) that the factory set up?

 

[cbrenthus]

Ford should not deny a warranty claim on anything aftermarket unless the specific alteration/part is proven to have led to whatever warranty coverage is being sought.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ffs-lets-all-stop-referencing-the-magnussen-moss-act.609911/

 

[JBlanco]

Ford should not deny a warranty claim on anything aftermarket unless the specific alteration/part is proven to have led to whatever warranty coverage is being sought.

I agree with you, even the Magnuson Moss law agrees with you. The problems is that it will fall on you to prove that your modification was not the cause of the problem, are you financially prepared to get into a legal battle on this? Again, with the flaky reputation of the 2.7L, I wouldn't risk it.

 

[broncorik]

Is the flow volume the same (or better) that the factory set up?

Flow capacity is determined by density/weave/media in a filter. The WIX and Motorcraft spin on filters flow at the same rate as the OEM Ford canister filter. It is easy to get a filter that has higher flow than another filter, but too high of a flow capacity generally equals less filtering efficiency...the ideal scenario is the best flow in conjunction with the best filtering.

 

[broncorik]

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ffs-lets-all-stop-referencing-the-magnussen-moss-act.609911/

If you want to follow that logic make sure you don't add ANYTHING aftermarket to your vehicle. But while considering sticking exclusively to OEM, note that scores of Bronco (and other car brand) owners have had warranty claims denied even though they never altered ANYTHING. Sometimes it is a coin toss whether an owner alters something or not as to whether or not a dealer shoots down a warranty claim...and keeping your vehicle OEM won't prevent every dealership from denying whatever warranty claim one of us may have in the future.

 

[Silver-Bolt]

Flow capacity is determined by density/weave/media in a filter. The WIX and Motorcraft spin on filters flow at the same rate as the OEM Ford canister filter. It is easy to get a filter that has higher flow than another filter, but too high of a flow capacity generally equals less filtering efficiency...the ideal scenario is the best flow in conjunction with the best filtering.

I am more curious about the flow of the unit not the filter. Is there anything within the adaptor the changes the flow volume?

 

[broncorik]

I am more curious about the flow of the unit not the filter. Is there anything within the adaptor the changes the flow volume?

I just called Baxter to confirm...the unit was tested at all operating temps and using an oil pressure measurement device there was no change between the numbers from the OEM setup to the Baxter setup (and no pressure drop equals same flow rate). They tested using a FL500S Motorcraft filter, designed to meet the flow needs of a V8.

 

[Silver-Bolt]

I just called Baxter to confirm...the unit was tested at all operating temps and using an oil pressure measurement device there was no change between the numbers from the OEM setup to the Baxter setup (and no pressure drop equals same flow rate). They tested using a FL500S Motorcraft filter, designed to meet the flow needs of a V8.

Pressure and flow are two different measurements. You can increase the pressure while reducing the flow and you can also increase the flow and reduce the pressure. Hopefully they have not use the oil pressure as the result of the testing.

 

[broncorik]

I will check!

 

[broncorik]

Regarding warranties...I would wager that many of the first things people do that buy a Bronco is run out and buy a front bumper and a winch. Unfortunately, just about every winch on the market when installed on a bumper blocks the dangerous "red zone" that Ford specifically indicates should never be blocked (because it could result in overheating of the engine/turbos). That said, if anyone on this forum ever has any kind of heat related issue, and has a bumper with a winch, or just a bumper that blocks the airflow, the dealer could easily disqualify that warranty. In addition, anyone who has ever used Forscan for just about anything leaves an indelible digital fingerprint on the Bronco and that could also easily negate a warranty claim...

 

[JBlanco]

Regarding warranties...I would wager that many of the first things people do that buy a Bronco is run out and buy a front bumper and a winch. Unfortunately, just about every winch on the market when installed on a bumper blocks the dangerous "red zone" that Ford specifically indicates should never be blocked (because it could result in overheating of the engine/turbos). That said, if anyone on this forum ever has any kind of heat related issue, and has a bumper with a winch, or just a bumper that blocks the airflow, the dealer could easily disqualify that warranty. In addition, anyone who has ever used Forscan for just about anything leaves an indelible digital fingerprint on the Bronco and that could also easily negate a warranty claim...

You are correct. The difference is that it's harder to justify a catastrophic engine failure on a Forescan reprogramming of allowing the power windows to close with the fob than on a modification of the engine's lubrication system.
It's your engine and your money. I only wish you the best of luck and the most reliable 2.7 on the planet. Good luck.

 

[broncorik]

You are correct. The difference is that it's harder to justify a catastrophic engine failure on a Forescan reprogramming of allowing the power windows to close with the fob than on a modification of the engine's lubrication system.
It's your engine and your money. I only wish you the best of luck and the most reliable 2.7 on the planet. Good luck.

My point is (from having worked at a dealership) sometimes a warranty claim truly is like a coin toss...whatever the modification has been or hasn't been it depends on how willing the dealership is to try to fight it. I will wager that given the simplicity and design of this adapter that the likelihood of it causing a catastrophic 2.7 failure is no more probable than the OEM cartridge filter causing a catastrophic engine failure. On the other hand, blocking your entire intended cooling area for your intercooler is much more likely to cause a failure over time...yet many folks think nothing of sticking a bumper and or a winch over both the red area and the orange area and not even considering the possibility of Ford denying a warranty claim.

Many if not most manufacturers plan for engines to fail at some point (typically just after the warranty period). For me it is simply about mitigating the progressive engine damage (that damage occurs on every single engine ever made). From the second you first start your engine when your car is new, it's gradually reaching its expiration date from that day forward...and cold starts are one of the main contributors.

Sponsored