Beadlock Capable Wheels - Use Scenario?

[Lorenzo]

Anyone know what the Use Scenario would be for Beadlock Capable wheels?

1) Doing daily driving, I have my stock tires and beauty rings

2) Weekend: I want to go off road !

A) Go to a tire shop with my Beadlock Rings, pay them to:

1) Remove beauty rings
2) Unseat the tire
3) Install the Beadlock ring
4) Re-inflate - then I drive to the trailhead
5) Deflate / Play
6) Re-inflate
7) Drive back to the tire shop
8) Remove Beadlock Rings
9) Remount tire on rim
10) Inflate
11) Reinstall beauty ring

B) Do the same as above but with 4 actual off-road tires you take with you to the tire shop...

C) Buy this and do most of the steps at home on your own.... realistic?
** Do people take these manual tire changers - to the trailhead??

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[SamG]

don't do this on your own unless you are very familiar and practiced with the job.

 

[toymaster]

If you are into off road, then you put on the bead locks and run them full time. Ford will not tell you to do so because they are not DOT rated and lability reasons. Bead locks are safe if you maintain them (check torque on bolts).

Ford is not going to suggest the gen pop of our society to be anything other than the nut behind the wheel.

 

[1979]

If you are into off road, then you put on the bead locks and run them full time. Ford will not tell you to do so because they are not DOT rated and lability reasons. Bead locks are safe if you maintain them (check torque on bolts).

Ford is not going to suggest the gen pop of our society to be anything other than the nut behind the wheel.

This. Nothing wrong with running the full beadlock as long you maintain them properly.

 

[AK SNO RIDER]

Yup. You either want/need beadlocks or you don't. Swapping them out like that would make no sense. Run beadlocks full time and be prepared to be responsible enough to maintain them and realize that you are not technically street legal. Or keep multiple sets of wheels/tires on hand.

Or the realistic choice for most people- don't run beadlocks. There is no need unless you are airing down reeeaalll low.

 

[Lorenzo]

Yup. You either want/need beadlocks or you don't. Swapping them out like that would make no sense. Run beadlocks full time and be prepared to be responsible enough to maintain them and realize that you are not technically street legal. Or keep multiple sets of wheels/tires on hand.

Or the realistic choice for most people- don't run beadlocks. There is no need unless you are airing down reeeaalll low.

Like how low -- before you need beadlocks?
20psi?
Is there a general rule for activity / psi?

Sand : 15-20 psi (NO BEADLOCK REQUIRED)
Mud : 10-15 psi (NO BEADLOCK REQUIRED)
Rock Hopping : 5-10 psi (NEED BEADLOCK)

 

[AcesandEights]

With all due respect to the higher ups, the bead lock "capable" wheels are a marketing tool. It is not a legitimate feature or option.

If you are going to run the rig on road you don't need/want bead locks. If you're going to run off road, you need them very very seldom, almost never. A person that really needs bead locks, and doesn't just want to have the "look" of bead locks, would just buy a second set of wheels, the wheels they want. There is no reason for a big-3 manufacturer to offer bead lock capable wheels except as a marketing "gimmick".

 

[Lorenzo]

With all due respect to the higher ups, the bead lock "capable" wheels are a marketing tool. It is not a legitimate feature or option.

If you are going to run the rig on road you don't need/want bead locks. If you're going to run off road, you need them very very seldom, almost never. A person that really needs bead locks, and doesn't just want to have the "look" of bead locks, would just buy a second set of wheels, the wheels they want. There is no reason for a big-3 manufacturer to offer bead lock capable wheels except as a marketing "gimmick".

Amen, agree 1000%

 

[toymaster]

There is no reason for a big-3 manufacturer to offer bead lock capable wheels except as a marketing "gimmick".

I'm not sure if I agree with you. I'm looking forward to not having to replace the rims. Tired of buying aftermarket rims and having the factory ones sit in my shop for years. Ford have offered a rim wide enough to run 37's and a bead lock if desired. Money saver if you ask me. I don't care about rim looks, just the capability.

On the other hand, I have not seen the actual design of these "bead lock capable" rims.

 

[Lorenzo]

I'm not sure if I agree with you. I'm looking forward to not having to replace the rims. Tired of buying aftermarket rims and having the factory ones sit in my shop for years. Ford have offered a rim wide enough to run 37's and a bead lock if desired. Money saver if you ask me. I don't care about rim looks, just the capability.

On the other hand, I have not seen the actual design of these "bead lock capable" rims.

I guess if you are getting sasquach, you're stuck with factory beadlock capable
So I could see why you would just stick with it

 

[Apples]

Like how low -- before you need beadlocks?
20psi?
Is there a general rule for activity / psi?

Sand : 15-20 psi (NO BEADLOCK REQUIRED)
Mud : 10-15 psi (NO BEADLOCK REQUIRED)
Rock Hopping : 5-10 psi (NEED BEADLOCK)

Like single digit low. I've aired down to between 12-15psi on regular wheels for years without trouble.

The only uses case would be extreme rock crawling where the extra bit of tire wrapped around a rock will make the difference between making it over or not.

99.8% of people have no need for beadlocks.

 

[Jwall]

I’m going Sasquatch and will run beadlock rings 100% of the time. I currently do. I change them myself in the garage as is. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not a terrible job. They aren’t for everyone, that’s for sure. I’ve been using the weight of the Jeep to break the inner bead with good luck.
keep in mind, this is a 115lb wheel and tire. It’s a workout. Lol.

 

[AcesandEights]

I'm not sure if I agree with you. I'm looking forward to not having to replace the rims. Tired of buying aftermarket rims and having the factory ones sit in my shop for years. Ford have offered a rim wide enough to run 37's and a bead lock if desired. Money saver if you ask me. I don't care about rim looks, just the capability.

On the other hand, I have not seen the actual design of these "bead lock capable" rims.

Maybe you "need" them. Based on my trim and upgrading to the Sasquatch package, I can save almost $1k by purchasing aftermarket. For me, if I "needed" them, I'd rather buy them for less money.

That being said, you must be the one person out of thousands that will need them. I've wanted them for years, but told myself I'd wait until I lost a bead, and that would be the moment I spent the $ for bead locks. I haven't lost a bead yet.

 

[Rick Astley]

Anyone know what the Use Scenario would be for Beadlock Capable wheels?

1) Doing daily driving, I have my stock tires and beauty rings

2) Weekend: I want to go off road !

A) Go to a tire shop with my Beadlock Rings, pay them to:

1) Remove beauty rings
2) Unseat the tire
3) Install the Beadlock ring
4) Re-inflate - then I drive to the trailhead
5) Deflate / Play
6) Re-inflate
7) Drive back to the tire shop
8) Remove Beadlock Rings
9) Remount tire on rim
10) Inflate
11) Reinstall beauty ring

B) Do the same as above but with 4 actual off-road tires you take with you to the tire shop...

C) Buy this and do most of the steps at home on your own.... realistic?
** Do people take these manual tire changers - to the trailhead??

Nobody has mentioned this in the thread yet, but you actually can't do A in your list above unless they actually will work with beadlock wheels, and that is certianly not many locations.

Discount Tire: Won't touch them
Sears: Out of Business
Costco: Won't touch them
Name some other national chains...... Probably won't touch them.

So your cost goes up proportionally when you have to hit the offroad shop to do the work.

 

[toymaster]

Has the actual design of the "bead lock capable" been made available? Pics or drawings?

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