Black Diamond vs Jeep Willys (Comparison)

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You cannot get a steel bumper on the Willys from the factory...
There are plenty of aftermarket costs to get the Willys in shape.
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I'm cross-shopping the same 2 cars...
Yes I am/was also .. its terrible they only offer a V6 pentastar that has the belt driven etourque not sure how reliable that design is ? .. Makes the 2.7 Bronco even better ...
 

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I am also doing this comparison, though only as a 2-door. Keep in mind, I have no interest in a V-6 or Sasquatch. MGV and wash-out interior is a huge plus for the BD over the Willys, with the massive caveat that the BD may in reality only have wash out footwells if the cargo and seat backs have that awful carpet, which lowers how usable that feature is. Willys gets the bonus of having tumble forward and quick remove rear seating, which makes the rear cargo area much more usable/flexible than the BD's fold "flat", with a large step.

Another point in the Willys column is that the interior packages are much more flexible and customizable. You can pick and choose safety, tech, and convenience separately whereas BD forces you to choose it all in one package that arbitrarily shoves you out of the manual transmission. Since myself and many others are deadset on a manual, the Jeep is offering more in that area.

The prices for each are nearly identical, so for me:

Black Diamond
New hotness
More comfortable road suspension
MGV seats
Washout interior (or just footwells)
More factory accessories

Willys
Better cargo modularity
Better color options
Better looking wheels (opinion)
More flexible and logical package combinations
More top options

Caveat: I am aware you can take either of these and modify them with aftermarket to suit whatever purpose. But keep in mind, these are both aimed at people who don't want to spend a more for a Badlands or a Rubicon and are likely more budget minded. Buying a brand new 40k car and then spending thousands to modify it right away isn't quite as appealing.

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Yes I am/was also .. its terrible they only offer a V6 pentastar that has the belt driven etourque not sure how reliable that design is ? .. Makes the 2.7 Bronco even better ...
You're spot on. I found the same questions & hesitation with that Jeep.

No solid engine options. Comes with Hybrid or 4-banger. Both with start-stop.

Only cloth interior... (although tan is a tight color choice)

Bronco BD:
V6 Twin-Turbo, no start-stop = no engine hesitation
Vinyl Interior, drain-plugs
Same 32" tires
Bash-plates
Steel bumpers
Rock rails
Air-Conditioning (like, really? in 2020)

The BD is really better all around (& great value in the Bronco lineup too). But for the wait....
 

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This is subjective, but I think the Willys is a little better looking vehicle. I think this comes from a few things:

1.) The Bronco is a bigger and "boxier" vehicle, so it really needs bigger tires.
2.) The tires that they put on the Willys look awesome
3.) I like the wheels on the Willys better

I've been paying more attention to Jeeps, and I've noticed that they look pretty good even with small/non-aggressive tires. I don't think this is the case with the Bronco. I think it really needs aggressive 33s or 35s.

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"The Look" is important, don't get me wrong...
And the Willys looks awesome, part of the reason I cross-shopped/ing it.

But the lack of Power Plant is (in my view) more important.
I can swap tires... but I'm not swapping a motor.
 

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Is this the regularly scheduled maintenance?
NO ADDITIONAL COST WORRY-FREE MAINTENANCE
Your first three oil changes and tire rotations are covered during the first 36 months of ownership...
 

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This is subjective, but I think the Willys is a little better looking vehicle. I think this comes from a few things:

1.) The Bronco is a bigger and "boxier" vehicle, so it really needs bigger tires.
2.) The tires that they put on the Willys look awesome
3.) I like the wheels on the Willys better

I've been paying more attention to Jeeps, and I've noticed that they look pretty good even with small/non-aggressive tires. I don't think this is the case with the Bronco. I think it really needs aggressive 33s or 35s.

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Will 33's fit the BD when it's time to replace?
 

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The BD has a rear locker-the Jeep Willys does NOT. it has a limited slip. Also Jeeps version of advanced 4wd (selectrac ) is available, but is a $695 option. As mentioned Jeep can be purchased relatively easily at around 5% under invoice. Cheers
 

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Jeep willys comes with the 3.45 rear end or the 3.73 if you pair it with the 3.0 Diesel. BD has the 4.46 rear end as standard.
 
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