Broken Bronco seen on Facebook

[daddycreswell]

Thought that was the new crap walking feature, guess not.

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[Sparkherd]

Inverse Trail Turn Option.
Only available in an alternated time/space continuum.
Or could be Wheeling With Too Much Fireball™.

 

[Silent Panda]

I haven't seen axle problems yet either and for the most part you won't until people start "hard" wheeling with their "selfie" and I don't see them breaking it either. It will just "wear out" faster.

Bigger, heavier tires have a larger load on the axle assembly. Aluminum will "defect" more than cast iron when put under heavy loads. This "defection" may not break something but it will wear on it and cause it to fail before the stronger one will.

I think you meant to say deflect.

Although those TRE's did defect from the group chat...

 

[ChrisD]

Squatch has a nodular iron case and is 210 MM. The non-squatch is aluminum case and is 190 MM.

So yes the squatch has a stronger axle. Tie rods are the same.

The bigger the tire the stronger axle you will need, in theory. If you are light wheeling or going to the mall you can get away with it but if plan to use it and use it hard then troubles will be on the horizon.

One other consideration is the weight of the wheel and tire combo. This is can cause premature problems as well.

I thought the Badlands had the 210 as well...

 

[j_marinelli]

Appears to be this Bronco
https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/best-suspension-fitting-37’s.24340/#post-858235

 

[goatman]

Has this been an issue on other makes / models?
Truly curious, not arguing.

Your statement is logical, but on the other hand, the 190 is rated as stronger than the old school Dana 44's.
So really, have there been other vehicles that ran an iron case center and aluminum case center at the same time?

In either case, this will make for an outstanding case study since there will be so many of each version set up nearly identically.

How many more times do you think I can squaeeze the word "case" in there? LOL

Has the M190 been rated as stronger than an older D44? Where is that info? Not arguing, just want to see the info. And, what strength are we talking about, the ring and pinion, or the axles, or both? I still have not been able to find any info on the differences between the M210 axles and the M190 axles, are they the same or different?

I was told by a reliable source that at least the M210 used the same front axle shafts as the F150 Raptor. That seems like they would be reasonably strong. Don't know anything about the strength of the tie rods, though. Steering is a completely different subject. Really, I'm not surprised to see some tie rods breaking already, I thought initially they looked a bit wimpy for serious off roading with bigger tires. Aftermarket steering upgrades should end up being more important than most other aftermarket products for serious off roaders...just like on Jeeps.

 

[Lxatoledo]

Looks like a broken tie rod. They look like a twig.

Man...............that is so discouraging. After Market Upgrade is going to be a must.........better order a couple extras and have them available on hand. I am surprised that they didn't use a high grade balsa wood instead.

 

[Frankie945]

Better to just break the tie rod ends then tear something else up. If you plan to wheel more than gravel roads just get a couple spare factory links and change out on the trail I you were to break em. Easy peasy.

 

[VGK_Fan]

Just saw this on FB. Can't be good.

Hug Mode engaged

 

[Shinoko]

Anybody familiar with RPG’s product?

https://www.rpgoffroad.com/product/bronco-1-2-tie-rod-kit/

I'm tempted to buy these as spares, but I don't plan on running larger than 35s. I guess it's better than getting stuck...

 

[Bodge Garage]

Is there any photos anywhere showing where the actual failure point is and is it at the same place?

 

[Ramble_Offroad]

I'm tempted to buy these as spares, but I don't plan on running larger than 35s. I guess it's better than getting stuck...

I also plan to stay with 35’s. That said the OEM Goodyear 315’s are not true 35’s. Plus I don’t know about the 37’s but I had a set of the Yoko MT’s in a 34 and they were tiny.

Interesting comment above that it may be better to run stock tie rods so they fail before other components do, I’ve heard similar logic before from a buddy. But IDK.

 

[tyrobronco]

Are these overly aggressive off roaders, or are these overly fragile tie rods?

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[Bradley Thornton]

Appears to be this Bronco
https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/best-suspension-fitting-37’s.24340/#post-858235

He rides hard so it is to be expected. Most hard core riders keep extras. One would say why not upgrade your rack. Tie rods are a great weak link and cheap if something has to give it way cheaper then a rack. I read the other tread its a Badlands non Sasquatch not sure it thats a 190 or 210 rack. (Not 100% its him)

 

[Nickp]

He rides hard so it is to be expected. Most hard core riders keep extras. One would say why not upgrade your rack. Tie rods are a great weak link and cheap if something has to give it way cheaper then a rack. I read the other tread its a Badlands non Sasquatch not sure it thats a 190 or 210 rack. (Not 100% its him)

Bingo. I don’t want my tie rods stronger than the rack. I can trail repair/replace an end… not so much with the rack itself. Same as the axle shafts, easier to replace a shaft than a diff.

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