Bronco extended trailer tongue extension question

[Onestepmore]

https://www.roughcountry.com/product/configurable/bronco-spare-tire-relocation-plate-51053c

Raises the spare 2”.

Thanks...this is a Great idea!!!

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[Los]

How much is the drop and what length hitch are you using on your Wild Track? Mine is a 13.5 inch length and 2 inch drop...technically 13.5 inch from receiver from the center of the ball to the receiver pin...if that makes sense...I have a picture with a tape measure in my first post you can see

The lenght and drop is the same as yours.

 

[Onestepmore]

The lenght and drop is the same as yours.

That's Great...thanks so much...I'm driving it and my trailer the way it is then!!!

 

[kellyweiss]

I don't know why we are guessing with this when we can just do the math. It's just a lever calculation.

So Bronco has a maximum tongue weight of 350 lbs. The following formula gets us the approximate rear axle load increase:

r = T * (w + h)/w

• T = tongue weight
• w = wheelbase
• h = length between rear axle and hitch (overhang, basically)

Using our handy-dandy equipment install guide we can get those numbers...

• T = 350 lbs
• w = 2550mm
• h = 833mm

MATHS:

r = 350 * (2550 + 833)/2550

r = 464 lbs

So the load on the rear axle increases by 464 lbs when loaded up with a 350 lbs tongue weight.

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Now we do it for your trailer...

r = T * (w + h)/w

• T = 190 lbs
• w = 2550 mm
• h = 833mm + 13 inch = 1163mm

MATHS:

r = 190 * (2550 + 1163)/2550

r = 276 lbs

276 lbs is obviously less than 464 lbs. You're fine.

Man-oh-man . . . . thank you; and, thank you for doin' what you do !!

 

[NVCowboy]

My trailer jack is removable and uses a drill to raise and lower the jack. You might consider turning the jack so the handle is on the side versus dead center. It doesn't look like youve got Propane tanks holding you back from trying.

I also have a drop hitch that gets the coupler mostly out of the way of the spare tire.

I'd also do an internet search for an Andersen 3324 Weight distribution hitch. With the short wheelbase Bronco, you might appreciate transferring a bit of weight back to the steering tires. Heavy haulers don't seem to like the design while lighter folks like us seem to like it. Tried posting a link, but I'm too stupid to figure it out.

 

[Onestepmore]

My trailer jack is removable and uses a drill to raise and lower the jack. You might consider turning the jack so the handle is on the side versus dead center. It doesn't look like youve got Propane tanks holding you back from trying.

I also have a drop hitch that gets the coupler mostly out of the way of the spare tire.

I'd also do an internet search for an Andersen 3324 Weight distribution hitch. With the short wheelbase Bronco, you might appreciate transferring a bit of weight back to the steering tires. Heavy haulers don't seem to like the design while lighter folks like us seem to like it. Tried posting a link, but I'm too stupid to figure it out.

Thanks for the information...I was able to turn my trailer jack about 90 degrees which helped a lot...I'm still hitting the ball catch so I just ordered a 6 inch drop...what is the drop and length on your hitch? Thanks for responding and the suggestions!!!...Amos

 

[NVCowboy]

I’ll be moving the trailer out of the way of my wife’s trailer (it’s 30ft long and requires the Superduty to tow it. She lets me come along so I can drive) this weekend. I’ll get a tape on the hitch and let you know. The Bronco and Cargo conversion are mine, and I use them on trips where I wouldn’t dream of taking her trailer (did that once, and the idea for the Cargo Conversion was hatched).

 

[cbrenthus]

I don't know why we are guessing with this when we can just do the math. It's just a lever calculation.

So Bronco has a maximum tongue weight of 350 lbs. The following formula gets us the approximate rear axle load increase:

r = T * (w + h)/w

• T = tongue weight
• w = wheelbase
• h = length between rear axle and hitch (overhang, basically)

Using our handy-dandy equipment install guide we can get those numbers...

• T = 350 lbs
• w = 2550mm
• h = 833mm

MATHS:

r = 350 * (2550 + 833)/2550

r = 464 lbs

So the load on the rear axle increases by 464 lbs when loaded up with a 350 lbs tongue weight.

---

Now we do it for your trailer...

r = T * (w + h)/w

• T = 190 lbs
• w = 2550 mm
• h = 833mm + 13 inch = 1163mm

MATHS:

r = 190 * (2550 + 1163)/2550

r = 276 lbs

276 lbs is obviously less than 464 lbs. You're fine.

How DARE you come on the internet with actual facts, logic, and math to prove a point!

 

[mwgriswold]

I don't know why we are guessing with this when we can just do the math. It's just a lever calculation.

So Bronco has a maximum tongue weight of 350 lbs. The following formula gets us the approximate rear axle load increase:

r = T * (w + h)/w

• T = tongue weight
• w = wheelbase
• h = length between rear axle and hitch (overhang, basically)

Using our handy-dandy equipment install guide we can get those numbers...

• T = 350 lbs
• w = 2550mm
• h = 833mm

MATHS:

r = 350 * (2550 + 833)/2550

r = 464 lbs

So the load on the rear axle increases by 464 lbs when loaded up with a 350 lbs tongue weight.

---

Now we do it for your trailer...

r = T * (w + h)/w

• T = 190 lbs
• w = 2550 mm
• h = 833mm + 13 inch = 1163mm

MATHS:

r = 190 * (2550 + 1163)/2550

r = 276 lbs

276 lbs is obviously less than 464 lbs. You're fine.

This indeed is the main thing to consider. I was concerned about it when I added an extension and a couple inch drop. I also used an equalizer hitch. I towed a large trailer from Florida to Utah that was very smooth except for the gas mileage.

 

[C6ZZGT]

I have a 2023 Badlands, Sasquatch and my Rockwood 640 LTD scale weighed in at 1990 lbs and a tongue weight of 190lbs. I'm worried about a 13 inch extended tongue I needed to use because the trailer crank would hit the spare tire and interfered with the tongue ball latch. Can anyone please give me your opinion on if I am cantilevering too far from the standard 9 inch tongue? I have pictures of everything for you to see. Any thoughts or suggestions are Greatly appreciated...

The tongue is on the trailer

Unbolt jack and rotate it so handle is on side ,bolt it back down.

Someone wanted a drop ball mount , you are good, trailer looks level in these pictures.

Your ball mount is not to long.

 

[mnhoops]

I have a 2023 Badlands, Sasquatch and my Rockwood 640 LTD scale weighed in at 1990 lbs and a tongue weight of 190lbs. I'm worried about a 13 inch extended tongue I needed to use because the trailer crank would hit the spare tire and interfered with the tongue ball latch. Can anyone please give me your opinion on if I am cantilevering too far from the standard 9 inch tongue? I have pictures of everything for you to see. Any thoughts or suggestions are Greatly appreciated...

Just wanted to say thanks to Op and everyone who commented. I freaked out last night when I tried to hitch my pop up camper to my new bronco and ran into this clearance problem. Used to tow behind a Wrangler with no issues. Just bought the 13" extender which is something I didn't know existed. Here's a picture prior to using the extender.

 

[Onestepmore]

Just wanted to say thanks to Op and everyone who commented. I freaked out last night when I tried to hitch my pop up camper to my new bronco and ran into this clearance problem. Used to tow behind a Wrangler with no issues. Just bought the 13" extender which is something I didn't know existed. Here's a picture prior to using the extender.

I may have another solution

Just wanted to say thanks to Op and everyone who commented. I freaked out last night when I tried to hitch my pop up camper to my new bronco and ran into this clearance problem. Used to tow behind a Wrangler with no issues. Just bought the 13" extender which is something I didn't know existed. Here's a picture prior to using the extender.

I'm not sure if this will help anyone but I've finally got my trailer hitch and pop up set up which I think is the right way. I did buy on a suggestion from this forum a cheap $15.00 scale from Amazon that goes to 400lbs...you'll see a picture below. My spec sheet says my pop up tongue weight is 165lbs...Whoa...how about 241 lbs...big difference. My new trailer hitch is 9.25 inches long and 6 inch drop...I could have gone to a 7 inch drop but I think this is close...take a look and if you have any questions message me...pictures are: 250 lbs of torque on the ball, 2 inch drop to 6 inch drop and shorter hitch, leveled trailer and measured height and then measured height of bronco hitch so it's close, all hitched up and no interferences, tight turn and no interferences and finally as I weighed the tongue weight. I was able to rotate my trailer lift 90 degrees by unbolting which kept the crank from hitting the spare... Thanks for all of the suggestions everyone gave me to get to this point...I'm pretty confident I'm good now...

 

[da_jokker]

I recently bought a light camper and ran into the exact same problem.

I had removed my spare tire in preparation for picking up the trailer. However I did not expect the trailer jack to impact the rear view camera. I can't even get the trailer attached to a normal ball without hitting the camera.

I had to run down to a local Walmart and pick up an extension.

I am still trying to think of some different alternatives, but the easy decision was to replace the OEM hitch with a draw tite.

Comparing the metal thickness, and how it is welded together, you can easily see why the OEM get only support 350 while the Draw Tite supports 675 (Even the ugly version that has the extended tube).

Cost $100 and a couple hours for more peace of mind.

FYI, I have a factory hitch for sale if anyone wants it

 

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Thanks to the OP for posting this one on the board. Lots of good comments and I for sure learned valuable info. Thank you everyone.

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