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With the reveal coming next month has there been any talk of approaching dealerships for a group buy deal? The guys over at Jeep Garage did this for the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 and were able to negotiate 7% below invoice once they reached a certain number of guaranteed orders - and that included leasing. I am wondering if we could do the same for the Bronco. Koons Jeep in the Wash DC area was the one who "won" the best offer. I can try and reach out to the Koons Ford and see if they would offer something similar. Thoughts?



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With the reveal coming next month has there been any talk of approaching dealerships for a group buy deal? The guys over at Jeep Garage did this for the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 and were able to negotiate 7% below invoice once they reached a certain number of guaranteed orders - and that included leasing. I am wondering if we could do the same for the Bronco. Koons Jeep in the Wash DC area was the one who "won" the best offer. I can try and reach out to the Koons Ford and see if they would offer something similar. Thoughts?
I like this idea, although I'm sure I couldn't afford to make that sort of financial commitment by the time the BroncoBronco is released. I'm going to see about stuffing more pennies into my piggy bank anyway.

Also, shouldn't we be also be pestering the board's resident Ford dealer (@ChrispyKC) about a similar deal if we're going to try this?
 

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Was just thinking the same thing. As long as hybrid is available at launch, I'm in.

I have X-Plan available through work, but it's not much more of a discount versus negotiation
 

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Love the idea of offering easy pricing for anyone that wants it, but I wouldn't be interested in bidding on a 7% below invoice deal on the most popular vehicle Ford has offered in the 25 years I've been a dealer. Not trying to be a jerk, but that doesn't get me excited, and anyone that wants to offer that type of deal can have it. I'm sure there were fees involved that make it higher than invoice when you look at the total transaction price. I don't charge fees.
 

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Love the idea of offering easy pricing for anyone that wants it, but I wouldn't be interested in bidding on a 7% below invoice deal on the most popular vehicle Ford has offered in the 25 years I've been a dealer. Not trying to be a jerk, but that doesn't get me excited, and anyone that wants to offer that type of deal can have it. I'm sure there were fees involved that make it higher than invoice when you look at the total transaction price. I don't charge fees.
Good sir I will pay $27.39 for the loaded raptor version and if you're really good I'll buy lunch. You won't have another deal this good. ;)
 

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There was mention of it in a memo and I know Jeep does it so I'm crossing my fingers. I haven't had a fun training session in years since we used to go to Bondurant School for SVT training.
 
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Going back through my email archive, this was the deal with Koons for the DC Group buy at the time, 2013 for 2014 MY:

-- 7% below invoice + tax, tags, freight (destination fee - $995), and $499 processing fee for a group of 10 to get the full discount;
-- NO time limit on purchasing as long as the 2014 JGC is available to order; and
-- $500 deposit before ordering.
 
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I wouldn't be interested in bidding on a 7% below invoice deal on the most popular vehicle Ford has offered in the 25 years I've been a dealer.
I don't blame you. 7% does seem a bit...aggressive?

But you seem like a fair and reasonable guy (yes, I'm assuming your gender), so I figured you'd at least try to get us the best deal you could, hence why I mentioned you.
 

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I don't blame you. 7% does seem a bit...aggressive?

But you seem like a fair and reasonable guy (yes, I'm assuming your gender), so I figured you'd at least try to get us the best deal you could, hence why I mentioned you.
I appreciate it. 7% below and then charging freight and an admin/doc fee isn't 7% below in the overall transaction price. They're asking you to lease or finance I'm sure which is where they'll mark up your rate over buy rate or collect a reserve fee. I guess what I'm saying is first off, 7% below invoice is A STUPID BUSINESS DECISION, and secondly you're not buying for 7% below when it's all shaken out.

The easiest and most fair route for both parties is

Vehicle X is $40,000 - Invoice is $38,000 you can buy it for $38,000 and if there's a rebate, you get that too.
No fees, no weird requirements and I don't care where you get your money whether it's from me, or your bank. You also don't need to come in, and shove your fist up your ass while hula hooping on roller skates while wearing clown makeup in order to qualify.

Buying a vehicle doesn't need to be a math lesson or an exercise in frustration. Some of you will enjoy that experience, others will take it upon yourselves to complicate things to save $25. I think I have better things to do with my time to save $25 or even $250. Spending a day or even a week researching a vehicle and pricing to save some goofy amount isn't worth most people's time. The dealership will also not be interested in after the sale support when you nickel and dime them to death.

I have some very simple but true sayings that all of my very best accounts have heard.

"If you think I'm not going to make a profit, you're wrong."
"If this takes longer than 30 minutes, it's you, not me."
"I don't want to waste your time and I surely don't want to waste mine either."

99% of the time they chuckle, because they know it's true.
 

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Vehicle X is $40,000 - Invoice is $38,000 you can buy it for $38,000 and if there's a rebate, you get that too.

Buying a vehicle doesn't need to be a math lesson or an exercise in frustration. ---- Knowing the math before you go in pays though, not all dealers are reputable, and for the average Joe who only buys every 5/6 years, it can be hard to know the difference.

"If this takes longer than 30 minutes, it's you, not me." ----- well, for the sales guy maybe, time seems to come to a complete stand still at the finance desk though, LOL!
Seriously, last two cars I have bought, the pricing part happened quickly....the freaking paperwork though...uggh. Even with heller good credit.....
God, I wish it was always "half hour" simple, but last vehicle I bought, they assume their customers do not know the math or do not research before hand. Apparently this is the case with a lot of their customers suckers.

Whatever the sale price was, the monthly payment they came back with was wildly off....enter sales manager trying to persuade me that his $60/80 a month higher (than it shoud be) payment was correct for the purchase price. (no trade in, couple $k down, not much room for error here,)

Enter smart phone and a detailed calulator app covering sales tax, APR, etc etc.

I mean I'll allow for some error and small fees....but not $60 or $80 or more x 60 months worth.

Manager was a bit upset(cocky), but once he understood that I had my shit together, he changed his tone.
I bought the car at advertised price ( GREAT price) at the appropiate monthly payment.

At any rate, I rather enjoy the research aspect of it, learning the market and then waiting for the right sale/incentive program. Not much need to haggle if your confident the advertised sale price is good.
 

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God, I wish it was always "half hour" simple, but last vehicle I bought, they assume their customers do not know the math or do not research before hand. Apparently this is the case with a lot of their customers suckers.

Whatever the sale price was, the monthly payment they came back with was wildly off....enter sales manager trying to persuade me that his $60/80 a month higher (than it shoud be) payment was correct for the purchase price. (no trade in, couple $k down, not much room for error here,)

Enter smart phone and a detailed calulator app covering sales tax, APR, etc etc.

I mean I'll allow for some error and small fees....but not $60 or $80 or more x 60 months worth.

Manager was a bit upset(cocky), but once he understood that I had my shit together, he changed his tone.
I bought the car at advertised price ( GREAT price) at the appropiate monthly payment.

At any rate, I rather enjoy the research aspect of it, learning the market and then waiting for the right sale/incentive program. Not much need to haggle if your confident the advertised sale price is good.
Yeah, I never want to talk monthly payments , and it concerns me when salespeople do. I only care about the purchase price total and current interest rates based on credit rating. APR determines downpayment amount and The monthly payment is just the math.
 























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