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My 4 door Badlands with MIC was built today, I was super pumped...now reality is sinking in that the MIC top is going to be a piece of shit - SMH.

Guess I'll just take it off, put a bimini on it for the summer and hope they get it dialed in and new ones shipped before winter.
I don't think the words Ford and "dialed in" can coexist at this point or anytime soon lol. But we can always hope.
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Why deliver a crap roof to customers and allow soft tops on all models with hardtops delivered and installed later?
Seems these tops are going to allow water in, cracking and when winter hits these tops will fall off like prom dresses!

Solution would every Bronco gets delivered with a soft top (with sagging rear side windows) with a hard top sent to dealers later for install.

On my ordered but yet built First Edition we've already been dropped from the MOD roof to MIC roof, why not toss in a soft top to make this right?
 

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Why deliver a crap roof to customers and allow soft tops on all models with hardtops delivered and installed later?
Seems these tops are going to allow water in, cracking and when winter hits these tops will fall off like prom dresses!

Solution would every Bronco gets delivered with a soft top (with sagging rear side windows) with a hard top sent to dealers later for install.

On my ordered but yet built First Edition we've already been dropped from the MOD roof to MIC roof, why not toss in a soft top to make this right?
yeah, they gave us $1000 in points and took off the full $1895 of the mod top, gave us free mic tops since there was no upcharge from a soft to a mic for us. Lets just ask for tops to be quality when we get them.
 
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Enough about bad roofs, late scheduling, and multi-week gate holds to check the roof panels, okay? The fine men and women of MAP are ramping up at an exciting pace to get as many of your builds out the door as possible.

The current pace of production is seeing nearly 900 units daily roll off of final assembly as we sit just 2 weeks away from "full blend" line speed. That 900 figure is split between Bronco and Ranger, currently running about a 60/40 split. Bronco's body shop has been pushing out as many as 300 rigs per shift, as they are running ahead of final a bit on speed. Units are only going to paint when there is room for them on final after, so there will be some ebb and flow here.

We've all been let down by the issues surrounding the MIC tops - my own included - and I have to believe that there is a fix in the works. All I can say for certain is that issues are being documented thoroughly and I expect some customer-facing movement on this soon.

As you've seen, production mix for the coming months is shifting outside of demand for hard tops (and all 2 door units). There was optimism in the last 6 weeks when output at the Plymouth plant ticked up a bit, but the multiple issues with delivered roof units has popped that balloon quite quickly. I can't say for sure what the final mix will be, but dealers are being asked to program retail stock builds (all 4 door soft tops, mostly base and Big Bend trims) so that MAP has a pool of backup builds in case they run out of buildable units. They will NOT build appreciable stock units IF there are buildable customer units in the queue. It's just a matter of what they're able to build.

IF you're lucky enough to get a hard top Bronco delivered, document the heck out of your roof at delivery. Take pictures of the entire inside and outside in detail. Note any inconsistencies - however small - so the dealer has record of it for when a solution becomes available.

The more I hear from my folks and spend time watching how my roof is reacting to everyday use, it's becoming sadly apparent that the design might only work if manufacturing were 100% perfect.. and even then it's iffy. Specifically, the raw edges where all 3 layers are cross-sectioned is just begging for material loss from the core (mine has happened in a pretty dramatic fashion in the last 3 weeks), leaving little cavities where water can accumulate and cause havoc when the weather shifts.

Annoying roof issues aside - that I'm confident Ford will address - these rigs are sweet. They're fun an engaging to drive, they're comfortable to live with, they do what you ask them to without any protest, and they catch the eye of everyone around you.


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With all that I've been told (much of which I've shared with you, but certainly not all), the part is very difficult to manufacture under ideal conditions, and some of the final design designs - notably the raw exposed cut edges - are questionable.

That Webasto is an absolute dumpster fire (and that's insulting to campus parties down the street at THE Ohio State University) just took a small issue and turned it nuclear.
You are the man Ross! I so appreciate all of your helpful insights. Please keep them coming...
I do have a question. I am a 7/23 blend date. My build is a 2dr, OBX, SAS, tow and high package. I do have a window sticker that I received last Friday. Is there a chance Ford may bump me again?
 

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In my unsolicited opinion, this would be the best course of action:

"We're sorry to share with you that the Molded-in-Color hard tops arriving at our production facility from a supplier have failed to meet the standards we have for a product as exciting as Bronco. Going forward, all Bronco 4-door units will be shipped with the factory soft top until a new hard top is available, at which point one will be available to you through your dealer. Two-door Broncos will be shipped with the Bestop soft top. As an appreciation for your patience and understanding, we've automatically credited your FordPass Rewards account with an additional 25,000 points, and you'll soon receive an email with a lifetime premium membership to Bronco Nation. There's still some wild out there, and we can't wait to help you find it."

Cutting their loss NOW would make a huge difference in what they're on the hook for down the road.
Ross for CEO!
 

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Seriously, what’s it going to take for someone at Ford to pony up enough money for a defector from Stellantis??? Get this hashed out!!

Ross, thank you again for the information. Without you we would be completely in the dark. Good luck on your developing hard top mess.
 

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@PREMiERdrum Ross, you know if this weeks (7/19) production is ON, AHEAD or BEHIND schedule?

I know shut down is coming and with my 7/22 blend date I'm right on the cusp of having mine roll down the assembly line just before everyone at MAP heads off on their (much deserved) break.

As for the tops: I'll take the MIC top & put my advanced composite skills to work finding a solution!

Given the choice, I wouldn't take a soft top!
 

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I’m torn. I was not going to change my MIC order because I live in MN and a soft top probably won’t cut it. Not to mention I think the stock soft top looks terrible. But on the other hand, I don’t want a roof that is just going to fall apart either. I’m not in dire need of a new vehicle; my explorer is fine. I have wanted the Bronco since I heard they were coming back, and seeing the new design sealed it. I made my reservation on 7/14. I was really hoping to be in it by now. So now I’m torn between switching to soft top and hoping the aftermarket comes up with a better solution or waiting and hoping Webasto can figure out the hard top. I was going to eventually get a soft top for summer anyway, but I liked the Twill fastback version better than the stock one.
 

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Enough about bad roofs, late scheduling, and multi-week gate holds to check the roof panels, okay? The fine men and women of MAP are ramping up at an exciting pace to get as many of your builds out the door as possible.

The current pace of production is seeing nearly 900 units daily roll off of final assembly as we sit just 2 weeks away from "full blend" line speed. That 900 figure is split between Bronco and Ranger, currently running about a 60/40 split. Bronco's body shop has been pushing out as many as 300 rigs per shift, as they are running ahead of final a bit on speed. Units are only going to paint when there is room for them on final after, so there will be some ebb and flow here.

We've all been let down by the issues surrounding the MIC tops - my own included - and I have to believe that there is a fix in the works. All I can say for certain is that issues are being documented thoroughly and I expect some customer-facing movement on this soon.

As you've seen, production mix for the coming months is shifting outside of demand for hard tops (and all 2 door units). There was optimism in the last 6 weeks when output at the Plymouth plant ticked up a bit, but the multiple issues with delivered roof units has popped that balloon quite quickly. I can't say for sure what the final mix will be, but dealers are being asked to program retail stock builds (all 4 door soft tops, mostly base and Big Bend trims) so that MAP has a pool of backup builds in case they run out of buildable units. They will NOT build appreciable stock units IF there are buildable customer units in the queue. It's just a matter of what they're able to build.

IF you're lucky enough to get a hard top Bronco delivered, document the heck out of your roof at delivery. Take pictures of the entire inside and outside in detail. Note any inconsistencies - however small - so the dealer has record of it for when a solution becomes available.

The more I hear from my folks and spend time watching how my roof is reacting to everyday use, it's becoming sadly apparent that the design might only work if manufacturing were 100% perfect.. and even then it's iffy. Specifically, the raw edges where all 3 layers are cross-sectioned is just begging for material loss from the core (mine has happened in a pretty dramatic fashion in the last 3 weeks), leaving little cavities where water can accumulate and cause havoc when the weather shifts.

Annoying roof issues aside - that I'm confident Ford will address - these rigs are sweet. They're fun an engaging to drive, they're comfortable to live with, they do what you ask them to without any protest, and they catch the eye of everyone around you.


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With all that I've been told (much of which I've shared with you, but certainly not all), the part is very difficult to manufacture under ideal conditions, and some of the final design designs - notably the raw exposed cut edges - are questionable.

That Webasto is an absolute dumpster fire (and that's insulting to campus parties down the street at THE Ohio State University) just took a small issue and turned it nuclear.
So what is the fix if ford knows the webasto tops are no good. Do they have to get a new top maker or is it they just need a new design with different material.
 

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Thanks. If I am reading this correctly - anyone with an assigned build date w/ a MIC top (that hasnt been built yet) will still be built, right?...And you're prediction of a memo going out that the MIC does not meet standards was only to address those still waiting for a build date?
 

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If one of our many site vendors sees this message can one of you guys build a hard top that is deserving to be on a bronco many of us would line up cash in hand a white option would be nice too
 
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