My sister says she gets 19 city and low twenties highway with her CRV, which is the
I paid $40K less for my Base, No regrets!
I agree. 15 is absolutely best conditions, tires at 60 psi and Hypermilling the shit out of it..My 2 door 2.7L Sas gets 13.5 around town.
I agree, I think the numbers will be nice. Let's go 435 HP and 505 FT LBS minimumMini me Broncos beware, Braptors will soon be on the prowl
Seriously though, one of the guys on another forum asked a good question.
" The the F150 Raptor gets the same gas mileage as the Bronco Raptor? The F150 has 450 HP. I thought the 3.0 Eco Boost was a more efficient engine?"
I just assumed we would be right at the 400 hp mark but based on that it makes me thing we BRaptor owners will get a pleasant surprise when the official HP and TQ numbers are released.
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I agree, I think the numbers will be nice. The F-150 Raptor is about 200 lbs heavier too so by that logic Bronco may have even more power considering the gas mileage. Let's go 435 HP and 505 FT LBS minimum
Hey watch out you're getting dangerously close to banned political talk there!
Yeah, there’s not even enough raw material to fulfill automobile manufacturer’s overly optimistic forecastsHey watch out you're getting dangerously close to banned political talk there!
You look at Ford and you see this weird dichotomy: on the one hand, preaching about an all-EV future. On the other hand, doubling down on the biggest gas guzzlers possible, going ever higher in the HP wars and actually eliminating their small fuel efficient ICE passenger cars.
So what accounts for this weird barbell phenom, the hollowed-out middle?
Who knows, but my guess is the schizo act is being caused by two divergent drivers of the business and two bets that Ford must make. One: politicians and bureaucrats driving car companies toward EVs through pressure, regulation and driving up the cost of building and owning ICE vehicles. Two: the huge preference of their US customer base for big, responsive cars. The two don't match up. But I think Ford may internally see that the economics of EVs may not pan out, even with the politicians trying to tilt the playing field by kneecapping ICEs.
You are starting to see cracks on the confident EV promises being made by the car companies. One sign: they are all going upmarket. All the new EVs are super luxurious and big and super expensive. All the buzz is with the Taycans and Rivians and eTrons. A friggin VW bus is looking like it may be pushing $80K. Where are the light, cheap, super efficient EVs that actually could maybe deliver on the environmental promise of electrification? There are some but even a Tesla Model 3 is a 75K proposition if you want reasonable range. It's clearly not where the emphasis is.
One possibility is that consumers don't want the small efficient cars. But consumers (at least in some places) bought ungainly Toyota Hybrids in droves. I think the more likely reason is that EVs turn out to be, surprise surprise, super expensive to build and support. People at the low end of the market cannot possibly absorb those costs. So the manufacturers are burying them in luxury vehicles that consumers already expect to cost a lot.
But the luxury market by itself won't support the substitution of EVs for ICE vehicles globally. I mean, talk about replacement theory.
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I think most will be pleasantly surprised by the HP / TQ numbers..Mini me Broncos beware, Braptors will soon be on the prowl
Seriously though, one of the guys on another forum asked a good question.
" The the F150 Raptor gets the same gas mileage as the Bronco Raptor? The F150 has 450 HP. I thought the 3.0 Eco Boost was a more efficient engine?"
I just assumed we would be right at the 400 hp mark but based on that it makes me thing we BRaptor owners will get a pleasant surprise when the official HP and TQ numbers are released.
Sport Mode, Adaptive Cruise control, 4A. Max speeds > 85 MPH. 2D, 2.7, OBX with Lux and Tow. Stock OBX rims and tires.
Very true. So called green policies are anything but. Let’s not forget that if we produce here, it’s done cleaner than anyone else.
