Bronco Team Engineering Confirms 7.0 Quarts for 2.7L Engine Oil Change is Correct

[cowman]

Ford needs to hire some rocket scientist so they can develop a proper dip stick.

Maybe some people need to drive electric cars if they don't know that a little below or a little above the full mark on dip sticks is still ok....

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[broncorik]

Maybe some people need to drive electric cars if they don't know that a little below or a little above the full mark on dip sticks is still ok....

Maybe Ford needs to produce only electric cars if their engineers can't figure out how to provide an accurate dipstick (something they used to be able to do even many decades ago). Additionally, let's try to find some common ground and define "a little." I personally consider "a little" as, for example, the distance between point B and C on the attached image. On my stick, and as shared by many other folks on this forum regarding their sticks, at 7 quarts our "full" mark is 1/2-5/8 inch above the MAX mark. That seems more like "a lot." ESPECIALLY when "the manual" clearly indicates "do not add oil above the maximum mark (even" a little) or engine damage may occur.

 

[da_jokker]

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Agreed. Post like that have no contributing factors to them at all. Not even worth electricity it took to type it. I don't like what my government's doing so just move to a different country.

Electric vehicles have a long way to go (pun intended) before they're ready for off-road use.

 

[BigBendBilly]

I also just had the first oil/filter change to drain the break in oil out at the dealership where according to the receipt they put in 6 quarts and the dipstick indicates overfill and the level is up to the twist on the dipstick, on level ground. I checked the oil level when I first received my new Bronco from the dealership and it was overfilled but not as much as it is overfilled now. Not sure if I should drain some out or not.

 

[wetdog]

16 pages what if you drain everything pan,filter then fill with 7 qts run it let it sit and scribe a mark on dipstick?

 

[da_jokker]

I also just had the first oil/filter change to drain the break in oil out at the dealership where according to the receipt they put in 6 quarts and the dipstick indicates overfill and the level is up to the twist on the dipstick, on level ground. I checked the oil level when I first received my new Bronco from the dealership and it was overfilled but not as much as it is overfilled now. Not sure if I should drain some out or not.

It's a hard call. Chances are the dealer did not allow the oil to drain long enough. It has been established that it takes a while to get all seven quarts out.

I would compare your dipstick readings to some of the ones posted and see.

Personally I have always been of the mindset it's better to be a little low than too high, but this threat is full of people that think of quart either way makes no difference.

One of the reasons why I plan on marking the dipstick the first day I get my Bronco (IF I get it)

 

[Jasf]

I've left my Bronco overnight at the dealer to get this problem solved. They let it settle and drain for long periods. So it now has 7 quarts and reads over per Ford engineering department. My problem is that why was it reading correctly at the top of the hash marks when I drove it off brand new? So I was running it low the first 5000?

 

[Deleted member 12876]

Thank you for this. I have been saying that the guys who have been losing their minds over this and using 6 quarts instead of 7 will have a rude awakening a year from now when they start having engine issues.

No issues, not much difference between six and 7 quarts. If the engineers design the motor to runoff seven it’s going to be operating safe with six

 

[Raptor911]

So if you are using 6 when the engine requires 7 then let’s say you burn off half of a quart so now you are 1.5 quarts from the required 7. It is a slippery slope

No issues, not much difference between six and 7 quarts. If the engineers design the motor to runoff seven it’s going to be operating safe with six

 

[CT203]

No you aren't. Maintain it at the max mark. The engine will operate just fine in the safe operating range. If the safe operating range is a half inch lower than it should be then if you're maintaining the level at the top of the range you should be in the actual safe operating range. It's simple, it's defensible. It won't raise questions if there's an issue.

Oil level at max mark, what can service manager say? You starved it for oil because everyone should know you need 7 qts in there? That would never hold up.

Oil over filled service manager says "you over filled it, damaged engine." But you added 7 qts! "How do you know you got all the old oil out? These engines always hold a half to a quart back when you drain it..." or some other BS.

And that makes it almost impossible to change our own oil without potential repercussions.

 

[buzpro]

So if you are using 6 when the engine requires 7 then let’s say you burn off half of a quart so now you are 1.5 quarts from the required 7. It is a slippery slope

just to add to the confusion, 7 is not a requirement, its the max capacity

 

[Raptor911]

no confusion for me. 2.7 calls for 7 quarts so that is what I will use

just to add to the confusion, 7 is not a requirement, its the max capacity

 

[broncorik]

no confusion for me. 2.7 calls for 7 quarts so that is what I will use

I am still confused because although the manual calls for 7 quarts it also indicates (warns) to not add oil above the max level on the stick. Conundrum...

 

[buzpro]

I am still confused because although the manual calls for 7 quarts it also indicates (warns) to not add oil above the max level on the stick. Conundrum...

YEP .... and Ford is doing nothing about this EVEN though they are fully aware of their contradictory instructions

 

[Deleted member 12876]

So if you are using 6 when the engine requires 7 then let’s say you burn off half of a quart so now you are 1.5 quarts from the required 7. It is a slippery slope

Well not really, engineers have design engines to be able to safely run off half the oil capacity for hours (miles) before internal damage is done to the engine.
But I don’t recommend it.
It’s probably worse to overfill than under fill…

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