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Sorry if this has been covered before, but is the 7 quarts supposed to be with oil change or full tear down and rebuild? I'm assuming quite a bit of old oil is still left sitting in the turbos and oil lines after draining and its a reasonable assumption that a decent amount of oil is still lingering in the engine after draining the pan.
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This is about as clear as mud.

So Ford is aware that some owners (myself included) are seeing that 7 quarts reflects as 1 quart above the maximum line. Yet they have no idea why? And while they don't know why this is, we should distrust the dipstick and blindly put in 7 quarts? It'll be comical if these have dipsticks designed for 6 quarts because the oil capacity spec changed during development.

I'm in-between two thoughts:
This needs to be resolved ASAP before this bites them in the ass.
Or
Thankfully +/- one quart isn't going to grenade engines.
 

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I think a bigger concern on the bronco is when climbing/descending steep hills for extended periods, when does the oil pickup go dry? Under normal road driving, I doubt a quart low or high is going to destroy the engine. LS motors in GM cars had issues with oil starvation under hard cornering on a race track. Normal street driving at low rpm, no problem.
 

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FSE was here and verified with bronco team engineering, 7.0qt for oil change is correct. My inquiry was the first they had received (through normal Ford channels) and they are investigating. One theory, which appears to be incorrect based on the last post, is they recycled the F150 stick. Beside it being longer, the part numbers are not the same so we can nix that. It's possible there was an engineering change since this 2.7 takes 1qt more than the other vehicles the Nano is used in. Gut tells me engineering spec'd 7qt after the indicator was designed/approved and no one caught it. Anyway, they are "officially" aware of it and looking into it.
The advertising for the Bronco engine said that it had a rededigned oil pan and sump so that the engine wouldnt be oil-starved when tilted on trails. That would account for a larger oil capacity.
 

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I think a bigger concern on the bronco is when climbing/descending steep hills for extended periods, when does the oil pickup go dry? Under normal road driving, I doubt a quart low or high is going to destroy the engine. LS motors in GM cars had issues with oil starvation under hard cornering on a race track. Normal street driving at low rpm, no problem.
The engine advertising says that they redesigned the engine to account for tipping on trails. I think it was in the initial bronco brochure
 
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Ford does not make any oil at all. They spec out what is required and the lowest bidder supplies it with the Ford name on it. Just like Harley Davidson but lots of HD owners pay extra for oil jugs marked with their logo. There are better oils available for this application.
Oil is oil. Dinosaur goo or synthetic accomplishes the same thing. Oil only gets changed because it gets infiltrated with carbon from the combustion process. Dirty oil reduces the protective quality. Oil doesn’t “ break down”, it just gets dirty.
 

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Thank you posting this, I've been at the my local dealership dealing with this the entire afternoon. I left with 6 quarts in the truck as that's what the dipstick reads. I was actually thinking it might be some kind of oversight with the dipstick design for the Bronco. This is concerning as many people like myself intend on keeping this truck for a long time. @Ford Motor Company needs to adress this immediatly to prevent engine damage!

So what does the dipstick read with 7 quarts? The Dealership changed mine, they didn't specify on the paperwork how much they put in. My dipstick shows overfull, so assuming they put 7 back in....
this was mine after Ford did an oil change, at the top of the twist. Of course I went back to the dealership last week and had them drain some out…I guess mine is now low.

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So I'm good to pour in another quart? Thanks for finally bringing it to the attention of someone who can get an answer.
Well, you can put 7 quarts in assuming you drained all the old stuff out and some isn’t stuck in there. Which is going to happen to someone eventually.
 

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Oil is oil. Dinosaur goo or synthetic accomplishes the same thing. Oil only gets changed because it gets infiltrated with carbon from the combustion process. Dirty oil reduces the protective quality. Oil doesn’t “ break down”, it just gets dirty.
True, all of it but it doesn't change that certain oils are better for certain jobs.
 

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Watched an episode of Engine Masters where they Dino tested a motor with different oil amounts in the crank case. More HP was produced when the oil level was “ less” then required by the motor specification. No one drains and refills the crankcase to exact specifications. Half a quart high or low matters not. As an example, if you change your own oil, the next time take the empty oil jug(s) and turn them upside down into a pan overnight. You will be astonished at how much oil seeps out of the “ empty” jugs and collects in the pan. Oil that didn’t make it into the motor. If really concerned about the true amount, go to the dollar store and buy a measuring cup and measure what you drained out. Then replace that same amount.
 

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this was mine after Ford did an oil change, at the top of the twist. Of course I went back to the dealership last week and had them drain some out…I guess mine is now low.

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I went through the exact same situation earlier today. Should we go out and buy a quart of the OEM oil from Auto Zone and put it in our Broncos? Makes you wonder what other surprises we will uncover! It's a damn Bronco scavenger hunt!
 

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Sorry if this has been covered before, but is the 7 quarts supposed to be with oil change or full tear down and rebuild? I'm assuming quite a bit of old oil is still left sitting in the turbos and oil lines after draining and its a reasonable assumption that a decent amount of oil is still lingering in the engine after draining the pan.
There was a post I was reading the other day about this. The guy said theres a certain way you need to change the oil. If Im remembering correctly, it was get oil warm with a drive, wait 20 mins, remove the oil filter first, then drain the oil, wait at least 5 mins then fill. He even addressed the dots on the dipstick. If I find the link, I will post it. He has a popular channel on Youtube. Has a Cyber Orange Bronco
 

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Another thing to note: When the 2.7 F-150 first came out, they were being grossly over filled by consumers and dealerships due to the oil having a slow drain down time. This was by design for the auto start/stop system. I remember reading horror stories of places (dealers) overfilling them by a few quarts. Ford says wait 15 minutes for proper oil drain down before checking the level. If it were me, I'd run 6.5 qts until Ford sorted this out. 😂
 

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Well mine came off the truck with the oil level above the dipstick twist. I asked my friend who's my dealerships service manager about it and he said that's how they're coming in from Ford.
 

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From the couple I've put my hands and eyes on, about the start of the "twist" or approximately 1/2" over the top mark.
I drained more than 7.5 qts (measured) then put in 6.5 qts and it still shows as overfill .... are you saying ignore the dipstick and just go with the printed manual?
 
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