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IMO. Waiting for the bronco until this time next year is worth it, to me anyway. Since the bronco‘s official reveal, you know Jeep is already thinking of ways to one up Ford. The wrangler is no slouch and is Jeeps biggest money maker and we all stand to benefit with the new competition. Aside from Jeep, you also have Toyota who had a great run with the FJ. GM is so far behind it’s a joke they their touting the new hummer as being competitive. land rovers, well my pinky doesn’t extend out far enough to own one, a new one anyway. The Gladiator is a success I think, there is nothing like it on the market and for just the mix of off road and utility it’s a great piece of equipment. I just think they dropped the ball on the whole Wrangler twin but with a bed. Ford will do it better cus Ford does trucks. Don’t get me wrong, i will get a bronco, but I’m excited to see what comes of the future of adventure vehicles and the accessories we will have access to. Opinions?





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I'm guessing Jeep will look pretty hard at getting their mpg's and horsepower/torque up. The Bronco beats the wrangler in both these categories (except torque on the Jeep diesel engine, also assuming the Bronco mpg is similar to the Ranger.) The Gladiator is worst in class for efficiency; the Ranger owns it in efficiency and torque and only has 150 pounds less towing capability.
 

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I think Jeep needs to do a refresh of the wrangler. With the bronco looking to be a big hit. I think Jeep will need something big. And a hemi wrangler isn’t it.
like you said GM is not even close with off road vehicles. Just the zr2 Colorado.
That ienos or whatever is called is not going to sell. There’s going to be a lot of people who will say they want it but it’s not a going to be competition for anyone.
only other competition is Toyota. The can bring back the FJ. Or even update the 4Runner to have modern features. Lol. Didn’t they just get CarPlay last year?
 

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This is a total anecdote but thought it was interesting. Insurance adjuster I talked with today is a big off-road guy, and they apparently get info before us. He asked if I had thought about a newer wrangler vs Bronco, I said I was dead set on the Bronco. He then confirmed that Jeep is indeed building the V8 wrangler, and that one of the specs he saw is 13.5” of ground clearance. I didn’t catch whether he said it was testing by the gov or vehicles that are actually provided to the insurance.

Big if true, but still taking with a grain of salt. He seemed to know his stuff though, he is a current Jeep owner and said Ford did a great job with the Bronco. 🤷‍♂️ May be totally BSing me but interesting nonetheless.
 

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Voted "Toyota". New 4Runner due in 2022.
 

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Voted Jeep, as I'm pretty sure my 2020 Rubicon is going away for a 2023 Wildtrak, or whatever Raptor name / model they come up with by then. Hard to get rid of a vehicle with a bumper to bumper warranty... :)
 
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Jeep has the Benchmark with the wrangler and just has to play catch up now to be at the bronco‘s level, “freshness” wise. I think they’re pretty even as far as capability. A retro style Jeep would kill. But Toyota is one of those ones that could come out of left field and knock both out. Imagine a Jeep or bronco with the reliability of a Toyota. The land cruiser is a beast with a price to match and they have been based in off road as long as Jeep has. But put out a retro style 2 door and 4 door FJ. They would probably get my money quick.
 

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I think Jeep needs to do a refresh of the wrangler. With the bronco looking to be a big hit. I think Jeep will need something big. And a hemi wrangler isn’t it.
like you said GM is not even close with off road vehicles. Just the zr2 Colorado.
That ienos or whatever is called is not going to sell. There’s going to be a lot of people who will say they want it but it’s not a going to be competition for anyone.
only other competition is Toyota. The can bring back the FJ. Or even update the 4Runner to have modern features. Lol. Didn’t they just get CarPlay last year?
Reportedly the next-gen Wrangler isn't coming until 2027.
 

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Reportedly the next-gen Wrangler isn't coming until 2027.
and i think that's way too far to be any competition for the bronco and to claw back sales. maybe it gives them time to see why people are buying bronco's and how to do it better. but they'll sacrifice sales doing so.
 

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Jeep doesn't need to re-invent the Wrangler. The Wrangler is and always should be the Wrangler if they want to keep making money.

What they should do is create a Bronco competitor....
- something that is 2 or 4 dr
- has IFS
- is MUCH better as far as road manors
- give a little bit on the actual offroading capability if they need to
- make sure it is removable top (power top would be yuuge)
- can be heavily accessorized
- removable doors

I'm thinking some kind of baja type looking vehicle that was cush on the road would knock it out of the park
 

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Ford is expanding the off-road market to people who would have considered a Jeep if it were a little friendlier on the road. Jeep needs to respond by addressing that new part of the market, not the hardcore off-roaders who are loyal to Jeep anyway.
 

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Jeep: They don’t have to rise. They are on top. Will they have to get off the couch? Sure, but they rule the roost until Broncos prove they have staying power.

Toyota: A 4Runner with a 2DR version and removable roof option (while keeping solid roof version too) would be a real threat. There are very few vehicles that are just printing money in today’s market and the 4Runner is one of them. The real question for Toyota is will they hit it with an ugly stick? Probably.

GM: I guess if the Chinese want one, they could give it a halfhearted attempt.

Land Rover: They screwed the pooch by throwing away the Defender. What they did would be the equivalent of Jeep turning the Wrangler into a baby Grand Cherokee. Great vehicle, but not the same.

Subaru: This market is not weird enough for them.

Other: Suzuki or Isuzu? Not likely. Nissan? Doubtful. Kia? They are very unpredictable. You never know.
 

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This is a total anecdote but thought it was interesting. Insurance adjuster I talked with today is a big off-road guy, and they apparently get info before us. He asked if I had thought about a newer wrangler vs Bronco, I said I was dead set on the Bronco. He then confirmed that Jeep is indeed building the V8 wrangler, and that one of the specs he saw is 13.5” of ground clearance. I didn’t catch whether he said it was testing by the gov or vehicles that are actually provided to the insurance.

Big if true, but still taking with a grain of salt. He seemed to know his stuff though, he is a current Jeep owner and said Ford did a great job with the Bronco. 🤷‍♂️ May be totally BSing me but interesting nonetheless.

It's also going to cost 75 grand LOL.

I think what's going to stick it in Jeep's eye is the Sasquatch on Base trim. Theoretically, you'll be able to get Rubicon capability for waaaaay under 40k in a 4 door Bronco. Base Rubicon Jeep 4 door is 43k.

Granted...They throw a lot of money on the hoods of Jeeps...But the MSRP is what makes the headlines.
 

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