Uh they already use robots to Paint the vehicle!!!
I suspect a "robotic" torque gun is already being used for that fastener. The human is only there to aim it and put fasteners on the end of the driver.
There's no "trying to justify" - the base Bronco justifies itself. Bronco is a $30k vehicle that some of you guys are loading up with stuff doubling the price. Stuff many of you don't even have a legit use for. I have $30k expectations of the Bronco in terms of paint and other items.If that is your argument, then no ford is $60k. Not even the raptors not even the f150 king ranch not even the f250 king ranch. I think this is an argument that people who went base model make, to justify their base purchase.
Allot of broncos out there…how many have over torqued bolts like this? First post I have seen about it. Regarding the paint blemish, ask any detailer and they will tell you it happens to every car brand, even the top end germans.
Have you seen wranglers price tag. Your at 70k for a rubicon before leaving the lot. Range Rover defender…your at 80k before leaving the lot. Then have to come back the next day for a check engine light. Do people say “the defender isnt a 80k vehicle”, no they don’t. But you will be at the dealer for repairs allot more then you will with a bronco. And it costs $20-30k more.. So why again is it not a 60k vehicle? I owned the wrangler JL before the bronco. I know it in and out. And almost purchased a loaded defender but ended up going bronco. I dont think its off price when compared to its competitors. Stop trying to justify your base model purchase on other people who did not want roll up windows.
As if getting a base bronco would have ensured no paint issues.
OP. After this is all figured out, your going to love your loaded Wildtrack.
If you paid $60k, you might be doing it wrong. Sure, some models are $60k+ MSRP, but the value is really questionable for what you actually get when compared to upgrading a lower trim Bronco to the same capability.
Yup. Not where the alleged human error was taking place, though, was it? Also, the robotic paint process is clearly not the pinnacle of the advancement in the field of robotics and paint, see OP's pics. Maybe Ford could afford to use a better painting system (improve the current standards) if they weren't paying Joe Uggadugga to hit the Playskool button twice instead of once. Tracking? Same bus?
I hope so, but I doubt it's anything more than a preset torque on a suspended uggadugga and it has tolerance. If he hits the near idiot-proof button twice, though, it is going to at least try to over-tighten that bolt/s. Ford won't even let us program add-ons like a circular tachometer, so I doubt we'll ever know the answer. It looked like it was tightened too much and cracked the paint. The less likely cause is the virtually 100% automated paint system laying down extra thick paint there which made it brittle and proper spec torqued bolts was too much and pushed into brittle paint and cracked it--but there's the run in OP's pic so there may have been something going on in the painting system that day/that Bronco. I think Occam's razor would cut the way of human error. Best resources I've had for torque and bolts have been a former racecar driver turned obscure engine builder and ARP. If you torque a bolt to 75 ft-lbs and then use the torque wrench on it again, set to 75, and it moves... well it's probably not 75 and the bolt is stretched.
I think they have. My June 2022 hardtop has been great. No leaks or glue issues. They come off and go on as expected.I’m hoping they resolve the hardtop quality issues (rain water drip, sound deadening glue, availability) before mine gets produced, which is probably next year. This ongoing hardtop issue is going on THREE years and Ford should have fixed it by now. Embarrassing and bad for business, obviously.reat
That’s probably going to happen!
OUCH!If that is your argument, then no ford is $60k. Not even the raptors not even the f150 king ranch not even the f250 king ranch. I think this is an argument that people who went base model make, to justify their base purchase, when they really wanted more then base (not a personal attack).
Allot of broncos out there…how many have over torqued bolts like this? First post I have seen about it. Regarding the paint blemish, ask any detailer and they will tell you it happens to every car brand, even the top end germans. Your statement isnt proper and helps nobody. It most likely does harm to others then it does do good.
Have you seen wranglers price tag. Your at 70k for a rubicon before leaving the lot. Range Rover defender…your at 80k before leaving the lot. Then have to come back the next day for a check engine light. Do people say “the defender isnt a 80k vehicle”, no they don’t. But you will be at the dealer for repairs allot more then you will with a bronco. And it costs $20-30k more.
So what if it had no issues at all? Then its worth 60k? Instead of pointing out the real issue…ford is not taking their time with these and some are shipping with issues…you try to make op feel like shit about his purchase.
As if getting a base bronco would have ensured no paint issues
OP. After this is all figured out, your going to love your loaded Wildtrack.
I really meant when it rains and you open the door to get out since thete is no type of upper sill or “gutter” to catch and run off the water to the sides you get soaked opening the door. Do you experience that?
THIS is why I seldom visit this forum any longer myself, too many buttheads thinking they are experts or giving opinions that were never asked for...
And with a pistol, nice!
