Can you swap taillights between Bronco trims?

[Miamibronco]

The age old debate. Standard or LED taillights / headlights for your new Bronco. Im an LED trapped in a standard body with my CO BD.

Is it possible to switch them from Standard to LED and viceversa? Or are the trims with precise dimension that it wouldn’t allow for a swap? Same going for the headlights.
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[ZackDanger]

Age old debate for sure.

Somewhere there is a thread where someone on the inside posted the plug/pin out differences between the two.

Someone is bound to come into this thread and say the BLIS sensors are in the lights (because they are in the ranger), but they’re not. They’re behind the plastic trim below the lights.

Short answer: They’ll be swappable, but we’re not sure yet if you’ll need an adaptor or cut and splice the plug, or what vehicle programming may need to be changed (by the dealer or ForSCAN when that becomes a thing, which it isn’t yet).

 

[ilbastarge]

Age old debate for sure.

Somewhere there is a thread where someone on the inside posted the plug/pin out differences between the two.

Someone is bound to come into this thread and say the BLIS sensors are in the lights (because they are in the ranger), but they’re not. They’re behind the plastic trim below the lights.

Short answer: They’ll be swappable, but we’re not sure yet if you’ll need an adaptor or cut and splice the plug, or what vehicle programming may need to be changed (by the dealer or ForSCAN when that becomes a thing, which it isn’t yet).

@Miamibronco

That thread had @618TRVLWILD mentioning someone at the Ferd electronics research place... With some type of actual evidence too.

I think Ashley is on vacation but that should be enough info to start your Google search with.

 

[Beach_Bum]

Age old debate for sure.

Somewhere there is a thread where someone on the inside posted the plug/pin out differences between the two.

Someone is bound to come into this thread and say the BLIS sensors are in the lights (because they are in the ranger), but they’re not. They’re behind the plastic trim below the lights.

Short answer: They’ll be swappable, but we’re not sure yet if you’ll need an adaptor or cut and splice the plug, or what vehicle programming may need to be changed (by the dealer or ForSCAN when that becomes a thing, which it isn’t yet).

That insider was Ashley's cousin who works for the manufacturer of the lights. They had confirmed the connections were different.

 

[flip]

This swap may be problematic without knowing if the non-led circuit is capable of PWM. Housing swap, definitely, being able to make factory LED work with non-LED body control module (BCM) mostly doubtful at this point.

C410/C411 is the inside (Molex MX150 sealed 20 cavity) connector and is the same on both LED and non-LED. Same with C414/C415 however, this is a 6 cavity (I think Molex) that the locating tabs are keyed. Got the number written down somewhere but regardless, with plug into both styles of lights. There are some differences in both wiring set ups but not sure if they can be easily made to function in either swap direction.

 

[618TRVLWILD]

My cousin only manufactures the headlights, which is North American Lighting. He does not do the taillights. They come from someone else.

The headlights have different pins and basically brains..so I do not know if the tails are the same or not.

 

[GaryB2220]

Most led lamps come with their own internal driver boards. So all it needs is the voltage. I'm sure they will be able to be swapped, with worst case being you need a new harness

 

[ZackDanger]

Most led lamps come with their own internal driver boards. So all it needs is the voltage. I'm sure they will be able to be swapped, with worst case being you need a new harness

I bet you’ll need to flip the check in the BCM to let it know there are LED taillights and not to rapid flash thinking it’s a burnt out incandescent

 

[GaryB2220]

I bet you’ll need to flip the check in the BCM to let it know there are LED taillights and not to rapid flash thinking it’s a burnt out incandescent

True

 

[gentlemanbronco]

Yes, probably, but it'll be less a pain to just wait for aftermarket lights.....

 

[Headsong]

8th thread maybe. And again, just go to Headlight Revolution for all your LED replacement needs. Great site. Thanks to @Megawatt wherever she went.

 

[Wide Open Roads]

Yes, probably, but it'll be less a pain to just wait for aftermarket lights.....

yep. Some things are either too difficult, too expensive or too dangerous to DIY.

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